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Old 12-08-2008, 02:14 PM
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link with the title i quoted...
http://www.foxnews.com/

link to article...
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/mar...mits-mistakes/


ummm...dont know what to really say...my brother is laughing his a$$ off though, mainly cuz he is a big ford guy
Old 12-08-2008, 02:20 PM
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Huh.. that's kinda shitty..
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wow. i say **** gm. ill bail u out when u fix my god damn pos sail panel and start making cars that people will actually buy.
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I dont know i like my car but i guess he came into office in 00.... maybe its part his fault they stopped making F-bodys..... Kinda sucks i hope they bail them out because i dont like the other companies as much and the economy will get messed up
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My Car is just a GM Chassis, everything else had been re-built or taken apart..lol
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i just gotta make sure i get my new camaro before they go under, lol
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slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp
A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break
A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

Anyone else want to add to the list?
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp
A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break
A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

Anyone else want to add to the list?
How else do you think most of us can afford these cars.
Old 12-08-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp
A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break
A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

Anyone else want to add to the list?
i vote you be removed from the list. sell your car to a appreciative person and buy a shitstang. the cars were budget go fast machines, not ******* luxury cars with gobs of goodies.

just to debunk your whole list
my 99ss
155k miles, orig motor and a4 trans and rear end,
13.0 at 107 lid and catback.
27 mph hwy and was still running strong the day it was totatled.

never had 1 problem with the car, not 1, replcaed the battery and tires and brakes, and drove it weekly to the strip cutting low 1.7 60's on dr's
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring-LOL
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k- Yea no ****!
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder-
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp- I havent had any rearend issues(knock on wood), but i guess our cars are known for snapping 10 bolts...A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break-HAHA, my **** broke, i was like what the hell?A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

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my responses in bold...

I love our cars i just thought the title and article were kinda funny...
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74
i vote you be removed from the list. sell your car to a appreciative person and buy a shitstang. the cars were budget go fast machines, not ******* luxury cars with gobs of goodies.

just to debunk your whole list
my 99ss
155k miles, orig motor and a4 trans and rear end,
13.0 at 107 lid and catback.
27 mph hwy and was still running strong the day it was totatled.

never had 1 problem with the car, not 1, replcaed the battery and tires and brakes, and drove it weekly to the strip cutting low 1.7 60's on dr's
true...
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yea GM fucked up and now they want us to bail them out..... as much as i support them and their cars, imo they deserve to go bankrupt to teach them a lesson

these CEO's don't even know what its like for the many Americans that are jobless... and one thing that gets me is that they are begging for all this money yet they can't park their jets for a few months to cut some costs

in the end its all greed
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp
A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break
A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

Anyone else want to add to the list?
LoL, I love GM and think they deserve to be bailed out as well. The negative impact I feel of them going under would be to great. And I think considering that they've been around since 1908 puttin bread and butter on alot of hard working Americans dinner tables stands for something.

And alot of people are going under, it's just the times we're in.

And to add to that list:

Con's-

Opti went bad after 120k
Water pump went bad after 80k
Trans went bad after 110k
Blew a head gasket after 100k
Power steering pump after 140k
Ignition cylinder after 120k
Driver side window motor after 90k
Diff after 110k

Pro's

Destroyed countless late model Mustang GT's, Mach 1's, Evo's, STI's and hung with some street bikes that are either rated at more hp, or cost 2 to 3 times as much as my Camaro

Proud of the fact that I didn't switch up to the next best thing, just cuz it was in style

Have used and abused, and maintained my F Body for 5 plus years as a daily driver.

Learned something bout myself, and my camaro every time she breaks, everytime me or the guys pick up a wrench, and everytime she gets right back up.

GM guy for life....
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Every huge franchise have the same type of greedy people that take advantage of what they can get! Yes its wrong i hope GM lives and are tought a lession, but i also hope that they hire or fire the people who fucked it all up!
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
slowly my car is becoming a car that only is a gm frame. I hate gm for giving me:

Shitty Decarbon Shocks and a 4" Lift Spring
Slow Window Motors that die at 25k
An A4 Tranny that was rated for a 4 Cylinder
A Rearend that was meant for an S10 with 110 hp
A PCV system that eats more oil than my grandma's 1970 oldsmobile
26 lb/hr injectors
A battery tray that my 3 yr old cousin could break
A fuel pump that dies the first time it is run low
Crappy Rod Bolts
Sqeaky rubber bushings
stamped sheet metal suspension parts

Anyone else want to add to the list?

I've had no issues with these systems.

I'm basically stock. I've had no major issues in 3.5 years ownership other than maintenance. 80k miles now (purchased at 41k)

F-bodies are great machines actually. Take care of it, it takes care of you. No doubt about it. In their day, you couldn't ask for much more potential without adding quite a bit to the original msrp. These cars are about the last ones I'd complain about out of the GM camp.
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“At times we violated your trust by letting our quality fall below industry standards and our designs become lackluster,” wrote GM.

This is an understatement..burn in hell ****'s. The only design they got right is the WS.6..lol, not the quality though.
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I agree with all of the Top CEhoes taking a pay cut and they should give us huge discounts on the new up and coming cars in the future!
Come on they did give us the Corvette and the the Grand National!
Next years Ad: buy one GM car and get one free!
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WTF!!! Is she talking about nobody wants to buy GM that the product sucks I have 4 GM vehicles in my drive way and would love to buy a trail blazer ss GM has alot of new cars that are bad ***
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IMO, rather than giving GM 18 billion dollars, id rather give that money to a brand new company with new economic designs and ideas, and hire CEO's who don't get an automatic 30 million dollars if they are fired.
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Ill agree on the window motors I have/had a 98 Grand AM(GT) and the motors are slower then my 20$ RC car motors, my birds window is ******* up now to whic really pisses me off, **** GM's eletric motor.



**** the 10 bolt



**** the fli up head light gears


thats about it everything else I like



Oh wait the SHITTY *** SOUND SYSTEM!


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