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Old 01-02-2009, 06:58 PM
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Yeah see damn its gonna be a battle royale fo shizzle ma nizzles.
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What? whose fighting. Just sharing my point of view.
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Old 01-02-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1Adam84
Why don't we all just fight about it huh?? seriously lets do it naked with oil too just like the ol grecco roman wrestlers....
I agree:



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Originally Posted by Finite1
Why are there weightclasses in organized fighting then?
Because when the two opponents are on a similar skill-level, weight does matter.

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I suppose you can put 230+ lb. men against 150's and assuming the smaller guy is more skilled, he should automatically win? That makes no sense.
Actually it does. However, don't take my word for it. I would invite you to go to any full contact martial-arts dojo and try out your theory about size...
Old 01-02-2009, 07:02 PM
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I have a bigger ***** does that put me into a larger weight class?
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Ok then why didnt bob sapp murder Nogeria when they fought, I think bob sapp was 350 + solid muscle and Nogeria was bout 230 240. Explain Sir
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Ha ha ha lol lol Good one LS1Adam84
Old 01-02-2009, 07:04 PM
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Thanks I try sometimes, more so when being ored at work
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Originally Posted by TA-Swede
Because when the two opponents are on a similar skill-level, weight does matter.

Exactly, that was my point!



Actually it does. However, don't take my word for it. I would invite you to go to any full contact martial-arts dojo and try out your theory about size...
I believe it.
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Size and strength matter. It doesn't make a difference how you look at it.. It's a factor that has to be taken into consideration.

Lets take organized fighting completely out of the picture.

So you've got a 6' 7" - 280lb guy in great athletic shape (lets say a football player) vs. a 5' 10" 165 - awesome shape boxer/jiu jitsu artist

Are you a betting man? I would always take the larger guy in MOST scenarios.
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Originally Posted by Finite1
Size and strength matter. It doesn't make a difference how you look at it.. It's a factor that has to be taken into consideration.

Lets take organized fighting completely out of the picture.

So you've got a 6' 7" - 280lb guy in great athletic shape (lets say a football player) vs. a 5' 10" 165 - awesome shape boxer/jiu jitsu artist

Are you a betting man? I would always take the larger guy in MOST scenarios.
Thats I dont agree with cuz, the smaller guy TRAINED well, can rock the bigger guy for a couple of reasons. His "chin" is probably built up and he can **** you legs up with some nice kicks, becuase they are "built" for it.

Check this out

Emelianenko Fedor vs Hong Man Choi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM
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Fedor is the ****, by the way. Just wanted to add that in....
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Why would you point me in the direction of the undisputed best heavyweight fighter in the ******* world vs. that scrub *** ************. I'm actually interested to see Fedor vs. Arlovski.

Extreme differences in size can play a big part. I don't see how that's even deniable. Specifically when you are talking about non-fighters.
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back on topic...

Originally Posted by hlaalu
i would have flipped you off to if i saw you make a u turn just to race me. and then i would have laughed at your face if you started telling me your weight lifting stats.
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Old 01-02-2009, 07:17 PM
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LOL my god look what i sarted! I will add this. have you noticed that usually the really big (steroid freaks) usually ( in the UFC anyway, totally addicted), lose the fight? thats because those steroids actually slow a guy down. If you have all that mass it will slow you down. If a guy is really strong with out any cardio he will (depending on the length of the fight of course, and endurance of opponent) usually lose the fight. Thats why i like the UFC (WEC etc) there are so many variables and anyone (winning at the moment or not) can get caught with a good hook and be KO'ed
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**** I would flip me off i i saw me roll up on me.

Ohh yeah sorry umm screw the viper, unless it's the one from that cool *** old show where the guy drove a crime fighting viper.
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Originally Posted by T/AWS6969
LOL my god look what i sarted! I will add this. have you noticed that usually the really big (steroid freaks) usually ( in the UFC anyway, totally addicted), lose the fight? thats because those steroids actually slow a guy down. If you have all that mass it will slow you down. If a guy is really strong with out any cardio he will (depending on the length of the fight of course, and endurance of opponent) usually lose the fight. Thats why i like the UFC (WEC etc) there are so many variables and anyone (winning at the moment or not) can get caught with a good hook and be KO'ed
true also
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Originally Posted by dyls1
back on topic...



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why?
Old 01-02-2009, 07:25 PM
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my 02 cents is that Lesner will not hold the belt for too long. I really think it is just a matter of time before there is a guy 220 to 250 lbs that has alot more Mixed Martial Arts education that him (plus he really doesnt have much exposure to the arts). its just a matter of time. i honestly think with Frank Mir he can take him out like he has done before.


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