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Old 06-28-2009, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hlaalu
that's not true creatine is great. more water = more surface area of cells = more protein synthesis = more muscle growth. creatine has virtually no side effects when taken properly and it's actually recommended that elderly take creatine supplements daily.... i could go on forever about the stuff.
im not saying its not great, maybe it didnt work in the football world. i agree with the no side affects. muscle milk increases your natural creatine output so i think im covered
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
what's a typical leg workout for you guys?
squats, one legged squats (your *** will be dead), deadlifts, then some of the machines, press, curl. nothing too crazy with legs.
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Originally Posted by hlaalu
get a blender ball, it works great.
looks cool
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
what's a typical leg workout for you guys?
for me its a mix of machines (hamstring curl, leg extension/press, calf press), squat and cardio. i usually do the bike, stairmaster, eliptical and the treadmill
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
im not saying its not great, maybe it didnt work in the football world. i agree with the no side affects. muscle milk increases your natural creatine output so i think im covered
yea i only take creatine during a post-cycle. i did a study on it and i was really surprised just how much is in red meats and stuff. i heard muscle milk was going to start having creatine in their protein bars... that should be pretty cool
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
looks cool
best $5 i ever spent, it really chops up the powder.

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
for me its a mix of machines (hamstring curl, leg extension/press, calf press), squat and cardio. i usually do the bike, stairmaster, eliptical and the treadmill
yikes, that's a lot of cardio, i could never do all that
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i split upper and lower back, and quads/hamstrings and glutes. So i do squats, leg press, hacksquat and those leg extensions things. do upper back one day. then throw deadlift on a day by itself with all those leg curl type hamstring excercises. Seemed like my squat and DL went up a bit when i did that. i was doing a lot of heavy low rep stuff on legs and i think i'm on a plateau with that. might bump up the reps and sets for awhile
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Originally Posted by hlaalu
yikes, that's a lot of cardio, i could never do all that
lol i didnt think it was that much. 3.5 miles all together. mile on the bike, mile on the eliptical, mile on the stairmaster and half mile on the treadmill. plus my job is physical so that helps out a lot
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has all of this affected your flexability?
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Originally Posted by hlaalu
one legged squats (your *** will be dead)
on a smith? how heavy do you go on this? sounds like a knee killer for me
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Originally Posted by pweterss
has all of this affected your flexability?
for me it has only helped. at when i started high school at 13 i was 5'6" 180. at 18 now im 5'10" 230. im more flexible than ever
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Originally Posted by pweterss
has all of this affected your flexability?
yea, i played tennis in college until I got hurt. tried picking up tennis again and it made my back hurt because the muscles didn't like all the twisting around. I had a lot of back pain for awhile when i started DL real heavy, muscles were pulling my back out of alignment what the doctor said. went on some muscle relaxers b4 bedtime and it went away. hitman's alot bigger than me at 5'10" 230, but its real hard for me to grab my seatbelt
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
on a smith? how heavy do you go on this? sounds like a knee killer for me
just stand up, pick up foot up off the ground a few inches, and squat down as far as you can on that one leg and back up. simple yet effective.
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im actually off to the gym now. time to kill my chest
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Originally Posted by pweterss
im more of a runner lol
i ran cross country all through HS, I was "huge" at like 180lbs and could only do a 17:15 at mt sac for 3mi. i hate running so much, i haven't done any cardio at all since the last day I did PT in the army
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
im actually off to the gym now. time to kill my chest
nice, i did chest today too. gotta stay ahead of the rest of the world doing chest every monday
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cool i practice BJJ and ive always been interested but never wanted to get big thinking it would affect my flexibility so i guess its not for me considering how dangerous it is to lift all that weight! i would hate to have back trouble no more bjj
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Originally Posted by hlaalu
nice, i did chest today too. gotta stay ahead of the rest of the world doing chest every monday
yep bouncin' 135 off their chest, wondering why they make no improvement haha. I do 3 on 1 off so my days are always changing.
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Originally Posted by pweterss
cool i practice BJJ and ive always been interested but never wanted to get big thinking it would affect my flexibility so i guess its not for me considering how dangerous it is to lift all that weight! i would hate to have back trouble no more bjj
it's not dangerous if you practice the right technique. there is a mentality out there that the more weight the better, which is not the case. classic example was today at the gym some older guy curling (if you could call it that) over 100lbs. but the way he did it was swing the weight up, arch his back and try to lift the weight up. i can guarantee that guy has back issues.

flexibility shouldn't be an issue if you keep up with it. have you ever seen professional body builders stretching before a show or a work out? these 300lb monsters have as much flexibility as a ballet dancer... it's ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by pweterss
cool i practice BJJ and ive always been interested but never wanted to get big thinking it would affect my flexibility so i guess its not for me considering how dangerous it is to lift all that weight! i would hate to have back trouble no more bjj
if you do alot of stretching you'll gain flexibility even while getting bigger. I'm lazy that's why i never do cardio or stretching. if you use correct, strict form on the big compounds there's very little chance of getting hurt assuming you're using the correct weight. Flat benching is a little different because it puts your chest into a slightly unnatural movement. Otherwise just wear a belt on DL and squat only and it will keep you safe. Another thing is free weights free weights free weights. i never ever touched a machine for the first 6 months of lifting, I think that's why I've never had any joint pain, plus I think that gave me great form on DB excercises which keeps you safe as well.


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