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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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I was looking at doing true duals on my Camaro. Someone was telling me that I would not be emissions legal for Cali. Is that true? Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1 hawk
I was looking at doing true duals on my Camaro. Someone was telling me that I would not be emissions legal for Cali. Is that true? Can anyone shed some light on this?
I'm sure you can pass just don't remove the cats.....
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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I'm fairly certain anything post-cat is acceptable, with the exception of noise violations. As long as your emissions equipment is all their and in its stock location.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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You wont pass the visual...

The way i see it, maybe you can pass this time with a hookup and the next time, but what about 10 years from now? is that same place gonna be there to pass you...
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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but what about 10 years from now? is that same place gonna be there to pass you...
If not find a new one.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhawk_02
If not find a new one.
HAHA that smiley is hilarious
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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I only need to pass CA emissions for a few more years. I have IL plates, but I have to pass CA emissions to keep my base stickers. I will be leaving CA in a year or two.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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If it involves moving the cats, it'll be hard to find a shop willing to do the work. But on a side note, when there is a will, there is a way.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Smog wise anything after the cats is legal. I talked to a smog ref when I was having the LT1 in my El Camino certified by him. He told me I could have passed with cutouts installed, so long as they were after the cats. You could have a problem with the cops from the sound though depending on the mufflers you use.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ReFtheMC
You wont pass the visual...
Yes he will. If cats (and other emission items) are in their stock location, he's good to go.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
Yes he will. If cats (and other emission items) are in their stock location, he's good to go.
so are after-cats electronic cut-out will pass visual inspection?
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Technically anything you do to alter the exhaust in any way is illegal in California. Some stuff gets passed over more easily than others (such as cat back exhausts). BUT, If you go to a place that abides by the law, true duals will not pass not matter what, as there really is no way to make a dual system while retaining the stock cats. Remember, stock cats must ALWAYS be in their stock position, you cannot move them at all
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ReFtheMC
You wont pass the visual...

The way i see it, maybe you can pass this time with a hookup and the next time, but what about 10 years from now? is that same place gonna be there to pass you...
Damn you have your life planned that far out? Sheesh I barely know what's going on next week......
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by whatsgrip?
so are after-cats electronic cut-out will pass visual inspection?
I don't have direct knowledge on cut-outs passing visual inspection, but I would say no because by definition they are illegal.

TDs would by definition have mufflers and CA vehicle code states "adequate muffler required". Same code states: "...no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device."
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Originally Posted by LivingCanvas
BUT, If you go to a place that abides by the law, true duals will not pass not matter what, as there really is no way to make a dual system while retaining the stock cats. Remember, stock cats must ALWAYS be in their stock position, you cannot move them at all
Not true, they've been manufactured for awhile now. Bassani manufactures a TD exhaust system that mounts to stock exhaust manifolds maintaining cat position.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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I didn't know that a smog shop would even touch your car without California plates. My parents park a car from Illinois here at their river house. Illinois keeps trying to get him to smog it. California wants nothing to do with it. He had to get a noterized letter from CA DMV to get Illinois off his ***.

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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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so a cut out after the cats will not pass? are there any shops in the riverside/temecula, even san diego i can take mine too? its my first time registering in cali, im a little nervous.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
I don't have direct knowledge on cut-outs passing visual inspection, but I would say no because by definition they are illegal.

TDs would by definition have mufflers and CA vehicle code states "adequate muffler required". Same code states: "...no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device."
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! god damn it! that means my car is already illegal
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
Not true, they've been manufactured for awhile now. Bassani manufactures a TD exhaust system that mounts to stock exhaust manifolds maintaining cat position.
Yeah I know, but somewhere in the law it states that you cannot make any modification that will make the exhaust louder. And good luck getting any system to be as quiet as stock. Although this law can be overlooked in some cases, its still there
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ReFtheMC
You wont pass the visual...

The way i see it, maybe you can pass this time with a hookup and the next time, but what about 10 years from now? is that same place gonna be there to pass you...
10 YEARS.... HAHAHAHA.......Who thinks 10 years away as far as stupid exhaust ----which can be changed in 2 hours.....
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