lol 
I just got back from CMS!
While I do agree that "numbers" don't mean anything, it's been said over and over and over how inconsistent CMS NUMBER are lately. This is not to say Ryne's tune isn't good but the numbers claimed have been very inconsistent and that raises some concern for me, not for the tune but the validity of the claimed numbers.
Maybe you just stated it wrong, I give you the benefit of the doubt.
Xpeditious, While I have read a lot I have to also agree with you on something. When ANYONE posts for a recommendation to a shop everybody and thier mother claims CMS IS THE BEST and will bash on you if you take your car anywhere else. WTF is up with that? People who have never been to CMS talk about it like thier temple. I whole-heartly respect and admire Xpeditious stepping up and recommending OTHER shops outside of everyone else's religion. C'mon people.. this is the western region board not the CMS board. Why jump all in his case for giving the person looking for a shop options?
Since you said "ANYONE", it shouldn't be hard to find.
I would have too.
It's childish to state that I don't believe it's the tune? Even after listening to everything they had to say and weighing all of the facts? Wow, didnt realize I wasnt allowed to have an opinion
what was childish about that? Its not like they didn't have a chance to present their side and I just jumped out with that. I read all their posts, heard everything they complained about, gave them a chance to explain their concerns, and I also talked to Ryne about it.
It's childish to state that I don't believe it's the tune? Even after listening to everything they had to say and weighing all of the facts? Wow, didnt realize I wasnt allowed to have an opinion
It's childish to state that I don't believe it's the tune? Even after listening to everything they had to say and weighing all of the facts? Wow, didnt realize I wasnt allowed to have an opinion
that was just an example.....the car feels like **** period....as far as u bigdaddybry...ive heard about u so i have some sort of respect for u so im not getting into it with u...but as far as u 94blkbrd...why dont u go to the WB meet next week or the meet on saturday and we can talk face to face to see if u can talk to me the way u write to ppl on this site
i did it 3 time...im not doing it the 4th time....as far as ryne i never talked to him in a disrespectful way because its a professional shop and becasue its not my way of working with a business but when it comes to someone like ur dumb *** im down for whatever...ppl here have seen me at the meets and they can tell u im not talk...u in the other hand no one has ever seen u so try to make it to the fullerton meet and ill give u gas money dont worry bout that..... and the u can tell me all the **** in person and u can prove all these ppl that ur not all talk bitch
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Verdad Gallardo Ryne's bound to screw-up, we all do, but when you post and say things like "it felt slower", that doesn't stand the litmus test. And if you were running on the ragged edge and someone brought you back to safety, of course there could be a "performance" compromise in the name of safety.
And BTW, we're seriously ******* up LS1BLKSS's thread. I apologize.
wow.......
In all honesty, this coming from a totally unbiased person 99% of the people who posted in this thread are complete and total retards, and (BRY) the 1% who are making sense and not being a nutswinger/fanboi/hater/follower/retard keep it up.
In all honesty, this coming from a totally unbiased person 99% of the people who posted in this thread are complete and total retards, and (BRY) the 1% who are making sense and not being a nutswinger/fanboi/hater/follower/retard keep it up.
STFU Alex. Yea, youre totally unbiased. And f-bodies ride like Mercedes..
we aren't talking... were typing big homie. i just think it's funny. he's either uneducated or ghetto and just writes the way he talks. or both. either way it's not looking good. lol.
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I know the main problem I had in some previous threads was non-validation of there being a problem. For example: "My car dyno'd lower", ummm okay, where are the previous graphs, what were the previous numbers, what were the prevous mods? Without that, you open yourself up for criticism. I'd expect it if it were me.
Ryne's bound to screw-up, we all do, but when you post and say things like "it felt slower", that doesn't stand the litmus test. And if you were running on the ragged edge and someone brought you back to safety, of course there could be a "performance" compromise in the name of safety.
And BTW, we're seriously ******* up LS1BLKSS's thread. I apologize.
Ryne's bound to screw-up, we all do, but when you post and say things like "it felt slower", that doesn't stand the litmus test. And if you were running on the ragged edge and someone brought you back to safety, of course there could be a "performance" compromise in the name of safety.
And BTW, we're seriously ******* up LS1BLKSS's thread. I apologize.
i just don't know how did this go from thanking ryne for a good tune to 
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That just might be the most professional response i have ever seen from a shop owner!
First things first.. Im not knocking anyone's shop/abilities, just trying to get some things straight.
Please explain to us how a certain dyno can fluxuate its readings from one week to the next? Unless it was not calibrated properly or something mechanical has changed. If you have already answered this then disregaurd my question.
as to whats in bold..
Hopefully you realize there is MUCH MUCH more to tunning than simple a/f and timing. Especially when a customer is complaining about a car running/feeling like ****. What difference does it make how many miles a car has on the odo. HP&tq is still hp&tq
First things first.. Im not knocking anyone's shop/abilities, just trying to get some things straight.
Please explain to us how a certain dyno can fluxuate its readings from one week to the next? Unless it was not calibrated properly or something mechanical has changed. If you have already answered this then disregaurd my question.
as to whats in bold..
Hopefully you realize there is MUCH MUCH more to tunning than simple a/f and timing. Especially when a customer is complaining about a car running/feeling like ****. What difference does it make how many miles a car has on the odo. HP&tq is still hp&tq
Gents,
I think its time i pipe in here with a little impression on most of you.
It seems that some of you are unhappy with CMS(or more particularly with his dyno). ok, well to each his own. its unfortunate that all of you have consistantly looked beyond the fact that a dyno of any type can read rather inconsistant in regards to the conditions at hand INCLUDING the milage on the car condition it is in, condition of its fuel, condition of its filters, condition of its oh **** i can go on for hours. The reality is as a car gets older you are likely to experience different issues that may or may not be able to be "tuned out" of the car.
Personaly i think we all should stop swingin on the nuts of dyno's we arent dyno queens were here to make our cars go fast, and ill tell you what, an Evo feels fast as **** but still runs high 12's, why cause its peeky, our butt dynos are some of the most innacurate numbers we can even dream of. If you question the tune take it to the track, lets see how you do there. if you dont track your car then why care abou tnumbers.
Personaly i will not hide my friendship with ryne, ive known him for some time and i feel he does an excelent job. if you dont like that then dont take your car to him. there is no need for drama to be involved.
Lastly i will say that there might be a reason why so many have posted positive feedback about CMS, it seems that for every 1 who is unhappy there are 4 or 5 who are extatic thats a pretty good precentage right here if you ask me!
its unfortunate that you cant make everyone happy all of the time its just not possible!