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06-19-2008, 12:01 AM
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New Camaro I was at JJ Chevy tonight making a deal on a 07 TB/SS. The subject of the Camaro came up. I then asked whats the dealer markup gonna be on that? They said they were told no markup over sticker. The salesman joked that maybe the first couple, but that was it....Just thought you guys might like to know that. Oh yeah and they said the ZR1 they are getting will be on Ebay starting at 25K over. Then if they get another it will be sold the same way.....
Hmmm a new Camaro SS at MSRP might be worth looking at.
Gib
Hmmm a new Camaro SS at MSRP might be worth looking at.
Gib
06-19-2008, 01:48 AM
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I was at JJ Chevy tonight making a deal on a 07 TB/SS. The subject of the Camaro came up. I then asked whats the dealer markup gonna be on that? They said they were told no markup over sticker. The salesman joked that maybe the first couple, but that was it....Just thought you guys might like to know that. Oh yeah and they said the ZR1 they are getting will be on Ebay starting at 25K over. Then if they get another it will be sold the same way.....
Hmmm a new Camaro SS at MSRP might be worth looking at.
Gib
Hmmm a new Camaro SS at MSRP might be worth looking at.
Gib
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06-19-2008, 02:15 PM
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I don't see quite as much excitment for the camaro and GM will likely do a big production run the first year.
06-19-2008, 03:14 PM
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Wow can you give us some more info? Are you Bob Lutz's brother or something, because there has been no information released about any of the drivetrain availabilities for the new Camaro, but it seems like you know!
06-19-2008, 05:01 PM
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I hope your sarcastic. Maybe you should introduce this breaking news to the 5th gen community over at 5thgen.org and the 5th gen forum over at camaroz28.com. If only they picked up the same magazines you did
06-19-2008, 05:58 PM
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meaning the z28 was never the fastest model that could be ordered. not taking anything away from the 1st gen z's, they are a lot more collectible than a 1st gen ss due to there low low production #'s but the only reason there was a z28 was so chevy could compete in the trans am series with dodge chrysler and ford. the rule was you had to make at least i think 500 cars available to the public before it could be entered into the trans am series, which was huge in the late 60's
not trying to be a dick, but its really getting on my nerves that people keep taking bull **** from uninformed people and restating it as fact.
sorry for the rant guys,, ill get off my horse now
06-19-2008, 06:02 PM
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just a little more info for you guys, when the epa and the goverment started ******* everything up in the early 70's the ss was dropped from the camaro and chevelle and nova, the only name plate left for the camaro was z28, which was soon dropped in 74 because the performance of the car was so bad. it wasnt rebrought back until 78 for i think 2 years, meanwhile ss namesake stayed safe till gm thought the 96 camaro had enought pony''s to be once again optioned for an ss model.
06-19-2008, 06:22 PM
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god damnit, both of you please do some reading, the z28 was a 327 ci car to start, in later years like the 1970 when the fastest small block camaro came out with the lt1 with 350hp it still was no match for a fully optioned ss which boasted a 427 and upwards of 400hp,
meaning the z28 was never the fastest model that could be ordered. not taking anything away from the 1st gen z's, they are a lot more collectible than a 1st gen ss due to there low low production #'s but the only reason there was a z28 was so chevy could compete in the trans am series with dodge chrysler and ford. the rule was you had to make at least i think 500 cars available to the public before it could be entered into the trans am series, which was huge in the late 60's
not trying to be a dick, but its really getting on my nerves that people keep taking bull **** from uninformed people and restating it as fact.
sorry for the rant guys,, ill get off my horse now
meaning the z28 was never the fastest model that could be ordered. not taking anything away from the 1st gen z's, they are a lot more collectible than a 1st gen ss due to there low low production #'s but the only reason there was a z28 was so chevy could compete in the trans am series with dodge chrysler and ford. the rule was you had to make at least i think 500 cars available to the public before it could be entered into the trans am series, which was huge in the late 60's
not trying to be a dick, but its really getting on my nerves that people keep taking bull **** from uninformed people and restating it as fact.
sorry for the rant guys,, ill get off my horse now
"Way back in 1966, the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA) began what it called the Trans-American Sedan Championship that was soon shortened to Trans-Am racing. The idea was to race domestic-built production sedans on a road course while limiting these cars to 5.0L, or 305 ci, of displacement."
or maybe we should ask howstuffworks.com
"Adding $458 to the $2,726 base price of a Camaro coupe, RPO Z28 included the F41 handling suspension with E70X15 raised-letter tires on seven-inch wide rims, quicker steering, and twin rally stripes. Front disc brakes were standard on the 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28, and for the first time, four-wheel discs were offered. They cost $500 and just 206 sets were delivered, about half going to full race cars.
The solid-lifter 302-cid V-8 with an 850-cfm four-barrel carburetor was again exclusive to the Z28. Dynomometer tests at close to 400 horsepower made a joke of its 290-horsepower rating. Dealer-installed dual four-barrel carburetor options were offered even in '67, and for '69, $500 bought twin 600-cfm Holleys on a cross-ram manifold, though at no change to the 290-horsepower rating. Chambered exhaust pipes -- perhaps the least-restrictive exhausts Chevy ever offered -- also were available."
**** it just read this page
http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...camaro-z28.htm
and who the **** said we were only discussing drag racing as being the standard as "fast"
So before i get off my high horse, please stop taking bull **** from uninformed people and restating it as fact
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06-19-2008, 07:30 PM
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6814
06-19-2008, 07:49 PM
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"Slated to bow in the first quarter of 2009 as an early 2010 model, it's expected that the Camaro will be offered in three trim levels — LS, LT and SS. The base LS may be powered by Chevy's 3.5-liter pushrod V-6 making about 220 bhp. The LT models would use the overhead-cam direct-injected 3.6-liter V-6 developing upward of 300 bhp, while the SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 (similar to that found in the Corvette) tuned to produce around 400–405 bhp. A year after launch, Chevy will introduce a convertible version and after that a high-performance Z28 model with a super-charged 6.2-liter sibling to the Corvette ZR1's LS9 motor known as the LSA. That engine would make somewhere in the neighborhood of 480–500 bhp and is similar to the engine used in the upcoming Cadillac CTS-V."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6814
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6814
What engines will the new Camaro have?
There have been several engines thrown out there for use in the Camaro. There is nothing certain so far for the production Camaro, but General Motors won't let us down!
The Concept Camaro has the 6.0L LS2 V8 producing 400hp, but since the LS2 goes out of production in 2008, this engine will not be offered in the production Camaro.
Rumored engines:
- 3.6L Direct Injection DOHC V6
- 6.2L LS3 V8 (as found in the 2008 Corvette)
- Supercharged 6.2L V8 - There are three new supercharged 6.2L V8s from General Motors. The 2009 Corvette receives the 620hp LS9, and the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V receives the 550hp LSA. There is supposed to be an LS8 as well at around 525hp, and it is rumored that this may be the top-level Camaro engine.
There have been several engines thrown out there for use in the Camaro. There is nothing certain so far for the production Camaro, but General Motors won't let us down!
The Concept Camaro has the 6.0L LS2 V8 producing 400hp, but since the LS2 goes out of production in 2008, this engine will not be offered in the production Camaro.
Rumored engines:
- 3.6L Direct Injection DOHC V6
- 6.2L LS3 V8 (as found in the 2008 Corvette)
- Supercharged 6.2L V8 - There are three new supercharged 6.2L V8s from General Motors. The 2009 Corvette receives the 620hp LS9, and the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V receives the 550hp LSA. There is supposed to be an LS8 as well at around 525hp, and it is rumored that this may be the top-level Camaro engine.
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614329
The poster "JasonD" happens to be the owner of www.camaroz28.com and has very close relations with the developers of the new Camaro, and he has verified that nothing has been confirmed to the public.
