What new car for the GF...?
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The MS3 beats it in a straight line is WAAAY nicer inside and will spank it around a track as well. Oh yeah and its gets better MPG and has more options available to it. That includes the neon and caliber versions.
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The MS3 is really the most practical, fastest, and nicest of all the sport compact FWD cars. For a daily driver it is way ahead of the rest of those cars, I mean come on it will keep up with stock LS1 camaros without problem, it will keep up with STi's and Evo's around a track, gets better MPG and is more highly optioned and most room out of all those stated above. You really can't go wrong with it if you plan on keeping it close to stock and daily driving it.
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I completely forgot about the new Cobalt SS.
That new Cobalt SS is no joke for a cheap $22,000 brand new car. Im surprised the cobalt was 1.5mph faster than the MS3 stock.
Personally Id take a white G8 over any of the cars listed. A 5 speed auto or 6 speed G8 should get the same MPGs as these turbo'd, steep geared, high reving 4 cylinders.
That new Cobalt SS is no joke for a cheap $22,000 brand new car. Im surprised the cobalt was 1.5mph faster than the MS3 stock.
Personally Id take a white G8 over any of the cars listed. A 5 speed auto or 6 speed G8 should get the same MPGs as these turbo'd, steep geared, high reving 4 cylinders.
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well... just called up the dealer again...
amazing, apparently these days they no longer deal/haggle with you on the price... the price listed in the window, is what they are selling it for, not a penny less!![MAD](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_mad.gif)
since when did car dealerships get so proud? It's a car that's been out for like 3-4 years already lol...
they mentioned this next wednesday that they "might" have more incentives by then come up... so i told them to give me a call back then... as of now they are sticking to their window price of $32,317... I've pretty much offered them 30k for it... and they don't wanna budge over $2,317 with the economy the way it is
makes no sense.... but their loss.... we are in no hurry...
amazing, apparently these days they no longer deal/haggle with you on the price... the price listed in the window, is what they are selling it for, not a penny less!
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since when did car dealerships get so proud? It's a car that's been out for like 3-4 years already lol...
they mentioned this next wednesday that they "might" have more incentives by then come up... so i told them to give me a call back then... as of now they are sticking to their window price of $32,317... I've pretty much offered them 30k for it... and they don't wanna budge over $2,317 with the economy the way it is
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G8s are still a BRAND NEW car. Most dealers are selling them at MSRP and really not making ANY money off of them at all. Wait til the 09 models start hitting the lot and then go pick up your 08 model for 27k.
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Just messing but it is getting annoying listening to you BEG this guy to get his girl a MS3.
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I'm just pointing out the facts that the MS3 is the best car of what has been listed for his criteria. Personally its not even the car I would buy unless it was this exact criteria. Can't help that its an outstanding car. Its like when people ask which mods to get they just pick what they have. When in reality its not always the best choice. In this case I really think the MS3 is the best choice, I'm simply stating the facts about the other cars.
PS I sat in a mini, I am 5'10 160ish and I thought it was tiny, you can forget about the back seat if the people in the front or you have legs.
PS I sat in a mini, I am 5'10 160ish and I thought it was tiny, you can forget about the back seat if the people in the front or you have legs.
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C'mon Wes, convince her to to buy my Miata. About 220whp, cage, seats and it will kick the ever living **** out of a sky. Those things are the same weight as a damn vette with half the power!!
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The BMW 128i starts at 29k.... you can get it with no options at that price. In-line six (the same as in the 3 series yet is faster) and goes 0-60 in 5.8. Also the Altima Coupe has great mpg, looks like a g37, and has 270hp. The Altima Coupe can be had with all the options for 30k (ie navigation,premium sound,blue tooth, leather/adjustable seats). I know I sound like an ad but I'm looking for a DD right now too that I won't want to modify and has great mpg- so I was looking at these two cars.
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problem with the ms3 is that there is not aftermarket past minor bolt ons. My friend had one and got rid of it. They cant tune for the direct injection. The cobalt S R T - 4 is faster and has alot more aftermarket. but i wouldn;t choose either of them. The g8 is the best bang for the buck. they can be had for $28000 out the door. tons of room inside, tons of trunk room and runs 13.5-13.7 stock. They also get good economy new 5 speed auto.
The new Cobalt SS/SC is going to be mean: Here is one with a catback and retune by Hahn.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...4-4_169452.htm
An MS3 has gone 12.79 with Intake/Midpipe/Slicks