Firebrian

This 1-owner 1999 SS A4 with 9K miles on Autotrader is priced about the most competitively of any lower mileage SS/WS6 at $13,500...assuming mostly stock. Probably buyable for $13K or even a tad less. Fwiw it was 3 years ago in January that I bought my 1 owner 1999 SS M6 with 12K miles on orig tires for $12K. Interesting that 3 years later comparable cars have not depreciated. Don't know any of the sellers on these cars....just looking at pricing of winter "bargains." Frankly, they don't seem to be many bargains at all compared to the previous 3 winters.


http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...71813547&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1998&Log=0

Second link shows all 4th Gen V8 F-bodies on Autotrader with <30K miles and <$16K price tag. 26 total. The selection is about 1/2 of what you'd see in the summer time

A decent price for a '99 WS6 out of NY state. 1 owner automatic with 48K miles at $10,600. I know some guys that paid $10K for cars with close to 100,000 miles.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...87488180&Log=0

shroyvin56

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The northeast (PA, NY, NJ, OH) is an interesting market. I'm from central PA.......as far as 2000-2002 WS6 M6 cars on CL, Autotrader, and Cars.com for cars with 52k to 103k asking prices range from 11,800-15,000. Autos alike going for about 11-13ish.

I think its common in most areas that the M6 cars are going for about 1,500 to 2g more.......personally I'd pay more an M6 car.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...55331067&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...72921305&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...85401603&Log=0


Now as far as SS Camaro's are concerned, they trail WS6's by about 2g on average. I think the fact that Pontiac is no longer produced and just the desirability of WS6's keeps the market a bit higher on them.

this 1999 however has a lot going against it compared to the market. Pewter, alloy wheels, its auto, 1999 (terrible flowing heads, LS1 intake)......the only thing it has going for it is the low milage. I think for the same price you could find a decent milage car (40-60k) in a much more desirable color, mid 2000 (Ls6 intake) or newer, M6, and possibly even chrome wheels......just my opinion.

if you are looking for a silver ws6 m6, pm me if you're from the Northeast. perhaps we could work out a deal.

madmike9396

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damn good deal IMO

Firebrian

I'd agree with $1K-$1.5K more for a typical M6 in the 20K to 100K mile range. I typically figure $1.5K for a Pontiac V8 over the Camaro V8. The premium can get wider for more unique cars worth over $20K.

I certainly don't consider the 1998-2000 cars in any color as "nothing go for them" vs. the higher flowing 2001-2002. The extra 5-10 hp isn't that big a deal. A slight factory tune/build difference can make a '99 faster than an '02. Very few can feel the "seat of the pants" difference of 5-20 hp any ways. Of those 3 cars linked above all have some warts. The 1st and 3rd are heavily modified. The first one with an engine swap no less: Half the car with 60K miles and the other half with >100K. On the 2nd one the owner was dreaming at $16,998. Current price of $15,500 is still a lot for a 44K mile car with modified graphics. Engine bay is dirty and indicative of a lot of driving on roads with sand, cold weather/rain, etc. I'd rather spend $15K on a stock '99 WS6 with 15K orig miles. There have to be better valued WS6 M6's out there than those 3. And if it's taking $15K to $16K these days to buy a 50-65K mile WS6, then it will probably steer a lot of people towards the less expensive automatics. You have to figure a large % of M6's have been beat on or possess mis-matched upgrades that cause their own problems.

My own preference is towards the automatics as there are very, very few M6 drivers who can out shift a comparable hp-rated automatic (<10%?). I'd also take a 9K mile '98-'00 A4 in ANY color over a 40K-60K mile 2001-2002 (excluding SOM of course which tends to bring a $2K to $5K premium for cars with 10K-65K miles). I don't consider red or black as desirable colors (ie worth a premium) as those are the easiest colors to find. The only color of the 2001-2002 group that I would call more desirable than the others and actually scarce is SOM....and that will cost a very pretty penny on a nice WS6. Interesting though that SOM is not as highly valued (%-wise) on the SS. It's actually the "less in demand" '98 and '99 years that have the most interesting and rarer/wilder colors, though you might often have to pass on the SS/WS6/Firehawk variants to find them. As always, there are different seats for different people. But I can understand that "everyone" wants a low mileage, 100% stock SOM WS6 M6 for Kelly Blue Book. I would too. Based on some of strong prices in 2014 that low mileage '98-'00 WS6 M6's fetched, it's pretty clear there's no great dislike of those earlier years. In fact, so few '98's of both the SS and WS6 have survived that those cars are likely to be worth a premium down the road....probably even more money than your "generic" 02's of which they made a ton of. I'd much rather have a primo '98 WS6 SOTL (arctic white?) than a generic black '02 WS6....and pocket the $3K to $4K difference in model years.

if you are looking for a silver ws6 m6, pm me if you're from the Northeast. perhaps we could work out a deal.

I'm from the northeast. If it were an automatic, I'd probably be interested.

shroyvin56

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SS' are certainly out there for better deals IMO......maybe its just the pewter on that one that turns me off to it and also seeing 19 instead of 20 for the year. ill add a few autos ws6 cars I came across. I'll limit to basically stock cars.......like exhaust, intake stuff is easily put back to stock and for most people does not reduce the value if tasteful.

2001 w/42k for 10,500....undesirable red, but in comparison a fairly low mile car, chrome 10 spokes, a few years newer, asking 10,5.

http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...0915/overview/

2002 w/22k asking 15,000.......very rare white, nice low mile car, chrome 10 spokes, 3 years newer.....worth the extra 1500 + or - depending on neg. skills

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...85619967&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...76143555&Log=0


http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...87488180&Log=0




but as far as the ws6's go......the more stock and/or low mile it is, seems the more $$$ ppl ask. which is good and bad for the market. for us WS6 owners, its great.......for a buyer, they are gonna pay big $$$ 9/10 times for auto or manual.

http://martinsburg.craigslist.org/cto/4846921570.html

http://newyork.craigslist.org/stn/cto/4859810270.html

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4841636597.html

Firebrian

A couple of those last WS6 M6's are asking "stupid" money for their cars. For $26K and 10K miles you can probably get a near perfect '99 WS6 anniv car or a '02 Firehawk 1LE with 10K miles for $24K. They can ask what they want, it doesn't mean it's reasonable or it will sell. But some of those automatics listed above are quite reasonably priced. And it's actually harder to find a stock <15K-20K mile automatic than it is a 6 speed.

I don't consider red to be undesirable by any means. Most people like that color, especially in the 1960's and 1970's muscle cars. In a F-body it's common...though still attractive imo. If I had to rank the colors in '02 I'd pick SOM, NBM, white, black, red, silver, pewter. I'm sure everyone sees it a bit different. If one just wants the drive train then the SS or even a Z28 is the better deal for them. Fwiw I have a red '99 SS M6 and like the fact that it was much cheaper than an '02 WS6. I don't have to worry about failed head light motors, door panel cracks, or even a failed radio antennae motor (it's a '99). It's all about trade offs and what each customer is looking for. When I was looking for a car there was a 1 owner '00 black WS6 M6 with 14K miles that I seriously considered. The price was $16,500+ and I just couldn't make a deal with the dealership. So I "saved" $4500 and bought the SS with even less miles It's never a bad idea to buy a car much closer to being fully depreciated.