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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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The plan is to inflate the drag bags to clear the fender. As far as fender flares, its not going to be the daily driver setup, just to and from the track. Which is anywhere from 40min to 2hrs away. But hopefully the police here in DE will be nice to me.

Here is what the same combo looks like, but with BS Streetlites
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...y/DSC_0210.jpg

That car is Plumcrazy's from the gto forum, I dunno if hes on here. I hope he doesnt mind me using his pic.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by silvergto115
The plan is to inflate the drag bags to clear the fender. As far as fender flares, its not going to be the daily driver setup, just to and from the track. Which is anywhere from 40min to 2hrs away. But hopefully the police here in DE will be nice to me.

Here is what the same combo looks like, but with BS Streetlites


That car is Plumcrazy's from the gto forum, I dunno if hes on here. I hope he doesnt mind me using his pic.
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I think you're taking quite the risk as the car squats quite a bit. The bags can help, but it's only a band-aid. That front wheel on your link shown also sticks out too far. Watch if you come down hard. You'll hit the fender lip.

Our Bogart wheels listed below I feel is a more suitabe setup and how it should tuck under the fender. I'm not stating there are no other ways to do it...there's always more than one way to skin a cat. I think you're setup is a bit on the dangerous side. Watch those quarter panels for debris as well...if you go through pebbles/rocks, that can create quite a mess on the paint.



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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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anybody runnings these yet? I havent completed my setup yet. But would like to see pics on some F bodies, hell even a fox
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Nope i'm still waiting on someone too.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by silvergto115
anybody runnings these yet? I havent completed my setup yet. But would like to see pics on some F bodies, hell even a fox
I assume these wheels are hub centric, due to them using 60 degree conical lugs nuts, instead of the shank style (lug centric) like welds. Did you order hubcentric rings when you ordered them from summit?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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im ready to see them on a f-body also. But just off the phone with summit and the 15x10 only come with a 5.5" backspacing. But you can get a 15x8 with a 5.5" also

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jzingre
I assume these wheels are hub centric, due to them using 60 degree conical lugs nuts, instead of the shank style (lug centric) like welds. Did you order hubcentric rings when you ordered them from summit?
Yea I have the rings. But Im sending the wheels back. Over sight on my part about taking the rings off and on. Because im still using the stockers to ride around. Should've listened to Steve. I'll probably be ordering some Bogart D-10s from him in late winter.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Yea I have the rings. But Im sending the wheels back. Over sight on my part about taking the rings off and on. Because im still using the stockers to ride around. Should've listened to Steve. I'll probably be ordering some Bogart D-10s from him in late winter.
Called "tb" over at summit tech. These rims are a lug-centric design. He verified this. Any conical 60 degree lug should work too. Here are the specs from the site:

Rim Diameter (in) 15 in.
Rim Width (in) 8.00 in.
Backspacing (in) 5.500 in.
Offset (mm) +27.00mm
Wheel Material Aluminum
Wheel Finish Polished
Wheel Construction 1-piece
Beadlock Included No
Beadlock Functional No
Lug Nut Seat Style Conical seat - 60 degree
Hub Centric No
Center Bore Diameter (in) 3.268 in.
Center Bore Diameter (mm) 83.00mm
Center Cap Included Yes
Valve Stems Included No
Quantity Sold individually.
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Sorry I wasnt clear they are lug centric. But since they are 5x4.75 (5x120.6) and GTO's lug patterns are 5x120. Ive talked this over with a few people and a older gentleman I work with, who formly owned a speed shop, suggested that even with the minimal difference that I run a ring on there anyway. This more or less was a another safety feature and since I couldnt find any for sale. We machined some ( more like he did and I watched). So yea In theory they work, and would work fine with a F body or anything with 5x4.75, but Im also running factory lugs. So a shank style lug centric wheel will help with the force I'm going to put on these. Hopefully not a 13 second car much longer. Plus another member posted pics of Bogart D-10s on his QSM GTO and they look sexy. At this point I dont know whether to send them back or what I want to do. If I keep them and mount them I'll definatly post pics.
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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i wonder how much grinding has to be done to fit these on a f-body
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kevins2000LS1
im ready to see them on a f-body also. But just off the phone with summit and the 15x10 only come with a 5.5" backspacing. But you can get a 15x8 with a 5.5" also
Does that mean we need spacers for rears or not? The only reason I haven't bought drag wheels is that I have to grind the calipers. Why can't they just make a wheel that fits without grinding and doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Also how much do they weigh? No point in getting them if they are the same weight as stock.
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SJM Manufacturing Inc
Keith,

I'm confused, where did I even mention the name of any of our stuff? I've actually discussed considering another companies product.

It's a shame that people feed into purchasing non-USA products when there are measurably better products available. People complain about how terrible the economy is, how things need to get better...if people continue to support this type of thing. The future is looking bleaker. I don't want to turn this into a political post. I suppose if you like what you see, support it.

These products are an obvious copy attempt of another well known well made product. Even some of the names are rather funny knock-off names.
It's a shame that a USA product (weld) can't make a wheel that fits a 4th gen fbody without grinding. This is a pretty popular drag racing platform. Even for the front I had to run a spacer.
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom
Also how much do they weigh? No point in getting them if they are the same weight as stock.
15x4 12lbs...15x8 15.5lbs
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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thinking about ordering a set today!!
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Well i called them and the fronts are on back order till december
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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Here is a pic of my car with the 15x8's, 5.5" bs, 275/50/15 et street radials... major grinding required. Very similar to how much must be taken off for the welds. I also took them and had them powder-coated, so they somewhat flowed with the theme of the car. Thanks.

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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dom
It's a shame that a USA product (weld) can't make a wheel that fits a 4th gen fbody without grinding. This is a pretty popular drag racing platform. Even for the front I had to run a spacer.

These are supposed to fit:
http://www.performancebyfisher.com/Weld_RT_Series.html
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Skippy SS
these aren't weld rt's, these are summit warrior r\t's....
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Im going to order some in december more than likely
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 98silvertacrbn
I bought billet specialties for $204 for the front and $219 for the rears, and they are made in the usa! thats a fair price.
Thats a great deal! Whose the source? Hopefully its a sponsor, like to support em! I'm starting to like the Bogarts but I like Billet Specialties a lot so i'll probably pick up a set next week.

Personally I would buy used or leave it stock before trusting a Chinese made product. You sure can't sue China when you get a faulty wheel. At least if its a Foreign country like Japan you can be somewhat assured they are not selling us mercury or lead laced products.
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