Aright guys, I'm going to run 17x11 TT2s all the way around. Forsee any issues?
02-19-2011, 03:04 PM
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if you have already spoke with someone regarding having 11' rims all the way around then why bother posting this thread, we are all just giving you input like you asked for, and now you seem to be getting upset at the comments regarding your post. the jury is out and we have spoken. Im pretty sure you are going to have to mod your front fender wells
02-19-2011, 04:09 PM
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if you have already spoke with someone regarding having 11' rims all the way around then why bother posting this thread, we are all just giving you input like you asked for, and now you seem to be getting upset at the comments regarding your post. the jury is out and we have spoken. Im pretty sure you are going to have to mod your front fender wells
I seem to be getting upset? Hardly. Everyone was saying how it wont look right and that'll look ugly. "How it'll look" wasn't the reason for the thread, but like I've said numerous times, I can careless if you guys think it'll be ugly. I think it looks killer.
If you read my first post, I asked if there were going to be any issues and if it'll throw pebbles/rocks etc up on the side of the car since they are wider.
Either way, I appreciate everyones opinions/advice. I'll probably stray away from the 17x11 idea due to the handling issues many of you mentioned. Not really worth the risk. Thanks for the help
02-19-2011, 04:57 PM
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02-19-2011, 05:22 PM
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If you like it, go for it man, its all about what you like/want. When you post a thread like this obviously its going to be filled with personal opinions. I think they are way the hell to wide for a front rim, the back yes and that is what i run. but as far as rubbing when turning etc... might be some modifications involved. and the Blue camaro in the last pic looks like he is runnin a tire to small for the rim, looks like the bead is going to pop off....
02-20-2011, 12:34 AM
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do you actually want to run that big of a tire or just have the appearance of them? like a nicely fitted wheel well? nice and flush? i love this trend its way more popular on imports though. just buy some better offset wheels and run a 275. but if you really want to run a 315 go for it. im not saying dont do it just check out some other options before you go cutting fenders haha.
oh and by the way that blue camaro at the end looks badass! wheels fit perfect!
oh and by the way that blue camaro at the end looks badass! wheels fit perfect!
02-20-2011, 08:58 AM
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As bad as the stock width front tires are with following ruts in the road, I can't even begin to imagine how bad it would be with a tire wider than a 275. Not to mention the added rolling resistance and weight.
02-20-2011, 12:28 PM
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What I don't understand is that on the OEWheels post there are alot of guys running 18x10.5s and getting nothing but praise and then someone wants to run 11s and everyone bitches about it.
My car is not a DD, its also not a race car, but I like the look of the pro touring cars so thats what I'm going ofr with my build, you don't like it...I don't care, its as simple as that.
Now as far as fitment use the 50mm offset if you have a Camaro, Firebirds can get away with a 36mm offset and not have to run a spacer. I have a camaro so thats why I have most pics of camaros. My wheels will NOT stick out, I will gaurentee that, and to the OP the pics you posted the guy is running Nittos which are known to run a little narrower than other tires.
And from what I have read, there is a strip of metal on the front wheel wells that needs to be cut out or folded up otherwise on hard braking or cornering the tire could rub through the plastic wheel well and cut up the tire. Other than that the tires clear in the front better than they clear in the back.
My future plans are 315s up front and 335s on the rear to keep the staggered look
Tires will eventually be the Kuhmo XS tires, I'll be using cheaper tires to get the bugs worked out of the suspension then stepping up to better ones
My car is not a DD, its also not a race car, but I like the look of the pro touring cars so thats what I'm going ofr with my build, you don't like it...I don't care, its as simple as that.
Now as far as fitment use the 50mm offset if you have a Camaro, Firebirds can get away with a 36mm offset and not have to run a spacer. I have a camaro so thats why I have most pics of camaros. My wheels will NOT stick out, I will gaurentee that, and to the OP the pics you posted the guy is running Nittos which are known to run a little narrower than other tires.
And from what I have read, there is a strip of metal on the front wheel wells that needs to be cut out or folded up otherwise on hard braking or cornering the tire could rub through the plastic wheel well and cut up the tire. Other than that the tires clear in the front better than they clear in the back.
My future plans are 315s up front and 335s on the rear to keep the staggered look
Tires will eventually be the Kuhmo XS tires, I'll be using cheaper tires to get the bugs worked out of the suspension then stepping up to better ones
02-20-2011, 02:07 PM
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They will stick out, just like the pic of the LS1 Camaro you posted earlier in the thread. If you don't think those stick out, then we just don't see the same thing when looking at the same car.
02-20-2011, 04:01 PM
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335s are among the widest tires ever fitted to road cars. They also will require substantial BFHing to fit. On a Camaro I see no way that they won't stick out.
Please do some more research on this. Putting that much tire on an F-body is difficiult, expensive, and you will be sacrificing driveability. I understand some people like the "steamroller" look, but it's not a practical application for a car that has no plans of road racing or autox.
- This setup will suck if you get caught driving in rain
- You will add a significant amount of unsprung weight, resulting in a less pleasant ride
- The extra rolling resistence combined with the weight will actually make your car slower, and get worse fuel economy
- Substantial modification will be required on both the front and back to get this setup not to rub
- Prepare to spend a lot of money on tires
^ If you're okay with all the above, go right ahead and proceed with your proposed setup.
Don't get me wrong, this is not the most radical thing people do with these cars. But the problem with this is that you're putting form before function. You're making your car less functional just for a look. It's the same problem the hellaflush people have.
02-20-2011, 06:00 PM
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The 10.5s are on the back, not the front.
We're not saying don't do something because we don't like the look of it... we're warning you that there are many issues you will encounter running that much tire on a street car.
I gotta say, I wish I had the kind of money you must have to put 315s and 335s on a car "just to look cool." Have you priced 335s yet? They aren't cheap, and there's very few choices of tires in that size. Most of them are track tires or drag radials (go figure).
335s are among the widest tires ever fitted to road cars. They also will require substantial BFHing to fit. On a Camaro I see no way that they won't stick out.
Please do some more research on this. Putting that much tire on an F-body is difficiult, expensive, and you will be sacrificing driveability. I understand some people like the "steamroller" look, but it's not a practical application for a car that has no plans of road racing or autox.
- This setup will suck if you get caught driving in rain
- You will add a significant amount of unsprung weight, resulting in a less pleasant ride
- The extra rolling resistence combined with the weight will actually make your car slower, and get worse fuel economy
- Substantial modification will be required on both the front and back to get this setup not to rub
- Prepare to spend a lot of money on tires
^ If you're okay with all the above, go right ahead and proceed with your proposed setup.
Don't get me wrong, this is not the most radical thing people do with these cars. But the problem with this is that you're putting form before function. You're making your car less functional just for a look. It's the same problem the hellaflush people have.
We're not saying don't do something because we don't like the look of it... we're warning you that there are many issues you will encounter running that much tire on a street car.
I gotta say, I wish I had the kind of money you must have to put 315s and 335s on a car "just to look cool." Have you priced 335s yet? They aren't cheap, and there's very few choices of tires in that size. Most of them are track tires or drag radials (go figure).
335s are among the widest tires ever fitted to road cars. They also will require substantial BFHing to fit. On a Camaro I see no way that they won't stick out.
Please do some more research on this. Putting that much tire on an F-body is difficiult, expensive, and you will be sacrificing driveability. I understand some people like the "steamroller" look, but it's not a practical application for a car that has no plans of road racing or autox.
- This setup will suck if you get caught driving in rain
- You will add a significant amount of unsprung weight, resulting in a less pleasant ride
- The extra rolling resistence combined with the weight will actually make your car slower, and get worse fuel economy
- Substantial modification will be required on both the front and back to get this setup not to rub
- Prepare to spend a lot of money on tires
^ If you're okay with all the above, go right ahead and proceed with your proposed setup.
Don't get me wrong, this is not the most radical thing people do with these cars. But the problem with this is that you're putting form before function. You're making your car less functional just for a look. It's the same problem the hellaflush people have.
I'm just trying to be fair, 2 guys supporting the idea and 10 guys bashing it. At the end do what you want, big n littles makes me want to puke, but I don't go around trashing on everyones setup or ruining their threads, I just don't look at it or post in it.
If you want an honest opinion on the setup, go on fraxx where they actually use the setup
02-20-2011, 07:14 PM
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i like the look of 11's on all four corners as well. looks badass very aggressive i love it. i say do it whatever floats your boat. im doing the 18x10.5 on all corners or 17x11 on all corners who knows but i say go 4 it
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If you like the look that's obviously your opinion, nobody can argue that. However, a 17x11" wheel with an effective 44mm offset and a 315 width tire will in fact stick out. I had a 285 tire on a 9.5" wheel with a 46mm offset, and if you stood over the car looking straight down from the top of the fender you could see the tire sticking out just a bit, and you're now talking about using an even wider wheel with a wider tire and an even more aggressive offset. It obviously won't stick out as much as the 36mm offset, and maybe it won't stick out enough to bother you personally (which is fine), but it will most definitely stick out to some degree, unless you are planning to alter the mounting point within the wheel well.
02-21-2011, 12:13 PM
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They will most certainly stick out, based on what you said here:
If you like the look that's obviously your opinion, nobody can argue that. However, a 17x11" wheel with an effective 44mm offset and a 315 width tire will in fact stick out. I had a 285 tire on a 9.5" wheel with a 46mm offset, and if you stood over the car looking straight down from the top of the fender you could see the tire sticking out just a bit, and you're now talking about using an even wider wheel with a wider tire and an even more aggressive offset. It obviously won't stick out as much as the 36mm offset, and maybe it won't stick out enough to bother you personally (which is fine), but it will most definitely stick out to some degree, unless you are planning to alter the mounting point within the wheel well.
If you like the look that's obviously your opinion, nobody can argue that. However, a 17x11" wheel with an effective 44mm offset and a 315 width tire will in fact stick out. I had a 285 tire on a 9.5" wheel with a 46mm offset, and if you stood over the car looking straight down from the top of the fender you could see the tire sticking out just a bit, and you're now talking about using an even wider wheel with a wider tire and an even more aggressive offset. It obviously won't stick out as much as the 36mm offset, and maybe it won't stick out enough to bother you personally (which is fine), but it will most definitely stick out to some degree, unless you are planning to alter the mounting point within the wheel well.
Go over to fraxx and look up from guys who know what they are talking about since I obviously don't, I can go on and on with this stupid debate, but I won't, its not worth my time. I have spend days researching everything to make sure I'm getting the right parts and they will fit properly. There are guys running the 36mm offset wheels and they stick out maybe 1/4" and they are using RR tires that usually run wide, I'll be running Nitto NT555s for now until I get all of the bugs worked out, then stepping up to a Kuhmo XS tire that runs a little wider.
Either way, I'm done with this post, stay tuned for my build thread but just don't post in it
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Yes, they will.
You said you'd be running a spacer that will make your effective offset 44mm, not 50mm.
There is nothing wrong with the car. And it's not the 9.5" wheels that stuck out, it's the 285mm tires that stuck out just a tad with a 46mm offset on a 9.5" wheel. You are talking about an even wider tire with slightly more aggressive effective offset on an even wider wheel.
Doubtful. Not many have run 285mm tires on a 9.5" front wheel with 46mm offset. You are thinking of the countless people that run *different* offsets with 9.5", and/or don't use a 285mm tire.
No need to. I ran the setup, and used my eyes too look at it. I know what I saw.
I don't need to research, I ran the parts I've described with the results I've posted.
I never measured how much they stick out, and I'm not going to argue that because I *don't* have a specific measurement for you. But no matter the actual measurement, sticking out is sticking out. People should be prepared for that if they plan to run this setup on a '98+ Camaro.
Good. When you are done installing a 315mm tire on a 17x11" wheel with a 44mm effective offset (using the spacer), stand over the fender and look straight down. You'll see some tire poking out beyond the fender lip on an LS1 Camaro for sure (not sure if LT1 fender will be the same, just noticed you have a '95). If you like it, that's fine, not arguing that.
There is nothing wrong with the car. And it's not the 9.5" wheels that stuck out, it's the 285mm tires that stuck out just a tad with a 46mm offset on a 9.5" wheel. You are talking about an even wider tire with slightly more aggressive effective offset on an even wider wheel.
Doubtful. Not many have run 285mm tires on a 9.5" front wheel with 46mm offset. You are thinking of the countless people that run *different* offsets with 9.5", and/or don't use a 285mm tire.
Good. When you are done installing a 315mm tire on a 17x11" wheel with a 44mm effective offset (using the spacer), stand over the fender and look straight down. You'll see some tire poking out beyond the fender lip on an LS1 Camaro for sure (not sure if LT1 fender will be the same, just noticed you have a '95). If you like it, that's fine, not arguing that.
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