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Old 10-04-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Kuhmo ecsta supra 712 VS falken's grb 451's ?

What do you guys think about these 2 tires ? Have you heard of either one i am looking for traction so base it on traction only. What one is better ?
Old 10-05-2005, 09:32 AM
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my falkens hooked better than my kumho's, and the kumho's were on a A4 with 330rwhp, falkens on a M6 with 360rwhp. the falkens also seemed to wear better than the kumhos, the kumho's also seemed to be smaller even though they were the same size. maybe the run smaller like the nittos or something. for the money i would recommend the falkens

but you could also spend like $10 per tire and get some bfg kdw's, which hook much better then either of those. thats what i went with this time around and couldnt be happier
Old 10-05-2005, 09:44 AM
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Yeah, spend a little more and get yourself some nice tires. Going cheap isn't good when dealing with tires.
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Well i appreciate your info guy's . But today i went into my work and i found a 285/40/17 kuhmo ecsta supra 712 BRAND NEW in the back that being sold as used. I picked it up for $20 buck's so i am getting 2 new 285/40/17's for $100 OTD. Does this change your guys mind ? Meaning i REALLY need tire's right now because mine are at 3/32's tread and i dont have much money. I also ordered some falkens but they would have been around 118 per tire. So i am going with the kuhmos.
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i would NEVER buy the 712's...worst tire in my opinion...i would save your money and get something better like ssome BFG's
Old 10-05-2005, 08:07 PM
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choosing between those to tires would be like choosing between

well, lets see . . .

a giant douche and a turd sandwich
Old 10-06-2005, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tally TransAm
choosing between those to tires would be like choosing between

well, lets see . . .

a giant douche and a turd sandwich
that was perfectly put Tally TransAm
Old 10-06-2005, 02:11 PM
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i got 2.0 60 foots on my 245 kuhmo 712s on my old ta, they arent that bad once they get heated up a little
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theres alot more to a tire than what kinda of 60's you can cut with them on a lightly modded (im assuming) vehicle

with enough practice someone could probaly cut a 2.0 on a pair of donut spares

when comparing wet/dry traction, noise, longevity, sidewall stiffness, cornering ability, etc both those tires arent worth the rubber they are made off
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I can't speak for the Falkens, but I owned a set of 712's before I got my BFG KDW's. The 712's were really squirrely on dry pavement, but not bad in wet. They were VERY noisy (if that matters to you) and wore pretty quickly. I'm much happier with my KDW's. These were on stock 16" rims, btw.


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Heh, I picked up 275/40/17 Sumitomo HTRZII's for 108 a piece. Honestly, not a bad tire at all, but I'll definately get the KDW's this winter to replace them.
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i have the 712's they suck *****! I am going to GSD3's! prrob 315's and 275's
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WOW i guess you guys dont like the kuhmos. I am still going with them since i am getting them for so cheap.
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i had a set of 712's on a 87 mustang 5.0 not nealy a comparison on power but it hooked good with those tires i kinda liked them (mainly the tread patern) but they seemed to wear ok for me
Old 10-08-2005, 04:40 PM
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Yeah just burn 'em off and have fun with them, mine are worthless with a stick and hp.



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