anybody run bogart rims on there everyday driver? had any problems?

 

About a month or so ago there was a bunch of posts about some guy that had a Bogart split on him. I think the thread may have been locked.

 

yeah bogarts on a daily driver probably wouldnt be the best idea.

 

Being that a wheel is a Bogart is a moot point. The P1 billet design is very durable and strong. NO runner is legal or safe to use on the street. Weld and centerline do not stamp in large letters on their wheels "for drag use only" for no reason.

If you want to go against us Engineers recommendations and use a Weld wheel or one of our wheels on the street, then do so at your own risk. I can assure you; these markings are not on the wheels for no reason. If you'd feel comfortable using a Weld wheel on the street, going against the manufactures recommendation, then by all means feel just as safe using our Bogart wheels. There is nothing marked on the outside of the wheel surface on our Bogart wheels, they are etched on the tube surface area so that it does not take away from the wheels show-quality finish.

Our Bogart’s are not marked on the outer surfaces of the wheel IF you were stopped by the police and they saw Weld wheels on your car that clearly state “for drag use only”, they have reasonable cause to immediately tow your car! I’m not stating to you or anyone that this is a security blanket to use our wheels on the street…it is only an observation that I am making.

Both weld and our wheels can and have failed! I have a prostar sitting in my office I can show you. It was bent from and F-body using it on the street. Any conciliation, off the top of my head, I can count on one hand for how many F-body customers have had one of our wheels fail. This is counting from the beginning of when I started production...company wide!

A large benefit of our wheels over a weld wheel i.e. prostar/draglite aside from ours being lighter and fitting better and higher quality materials used, we repair wheels, take care of our customers and back our products up 100%.

...Even down to if you wanted your wheels re-polished, re-checked etc, we do pay attention to customer service and our customer needs. You are not only purchasing a quality product, you are receiving customer care and service second to none.

 

I drove mine to the track every weekend 45 miles round trip and a couple of 150 mile road trips on d10's/vw fronts and et streets.And fwiw the roads in iowa kinda suck.I'm not saying I recomend it but I do it all the time.

 

tsk tsk, i'm taking notes on you guys .

On a serious note take those VW tires off ASAP. I'd never recommend them for any drag wheel. We've only had a handful of F-body guys ever damage a wheel out of EVERY F-body run...

...the majority who did, used the incorrect tires i.e. VW tires on the wheels. You NEVER will hear from me as a suggestion to use those tires on runners. None are rated for an F-body, they are too small of a diameter compared to stock which affect ABS. They are generally meant for WIDER wheels like you see on VW's. These VW tires put a much higher stress load on a small drag wheel. Many times, without a customer stating what tire they are using (any car, not just an F-body), when they are received back for inspection, many times it is evident by the wear they were using VW tires.

You'll hear me commment about these VW tires in other posts...if you guys want to run them so be it...I'd HIGHLY advice not using them. There is no benifit to using a VW tire on a runner with the exception of cost. The cost saving certainly isn't worth it in the end. If you EVER hear one of my associates and vendors suggesting these VW tires, please let me know so I can discuss any mislead statements with them.

 

Well, I wouldn't call that "misleading". Some people, regardless of where they work, have their own opinions as far as what they should and shouldn't run.

 

Blind527, I’m assuming you're referring to the VW tires. Maybe misleading was not a good word...how about mis-informed? Certainly run what you want to. If one is basing it off of purely financial issues, the VW tire will be best.

Other then that, from a point of what works best, the VW tire is a very poor choice for an F-body and a skinny drag wheel. Reason's as I've stated above from VW tire data sheets as well as from an engineering standpoint of what wheel works best with what tire. This is hard factual data as well as physical evidence that we have seen from use of these tires. If you want to run them, by all means go ahead. The real only tangible benefit would be about 60.00 or so per tire at the risk of safety.

Having a front tire or wheel fail is not something I'd wish on anyone. Using a tire that is rated below 100mph is not exactly a good thing. These are safe for a light vehicles or car that can barely even reach rated speeds…but not for cars running excess of 140MPH. Running 80-90 mph on the highway is not too hard to do with a high-performance car.

There ratings are listed at optimum tire pressure, too much pressure/too little (which most folks seem to put ~45psi) on the road completely changes tire performance. Compound these concerns on a tire that is stuffed on a small wheel, as well as a very heavy car...all the data shows not to use it.

Think about this, when you purchase (including an F-body) cars that have the speed limiter activated, this is due to the tires selected on the car when purchased. If you didn’t receive a z-rated tire, your car probably had a limiter set on your car. Now think about using a tire rated down to as low as 85 or so.

I’m not here to argue about the tires, I’m commenting on data that I look at, as well as problems that can/do arise. Based on these facts, we suggest highly NOT using a VW tire on a skinny drag wheel. Fatigue stressing aluminum creating stress cracks through the material may occur quicker.

I do not like to hear our customer’s state “I never knew that about the VW wheels”, “everyone uses them, so it must be ok”.

Happy racing!