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Old 05-14-2009, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
It's a piece of crap.
LOL!!! Don't sugar coat it or anything. JK!


"Anybody able to get some serious bass from a stealth box?"

I've had good success over the years with several combinations of subs in stealth enclosures. One quality 10" sub will do well for you and be money well spent doing it right the first time. My best successes with these were with RE Audio SE10 D4 (wired @ 2ohms) and with a CDT QES-1020 D4 (wired @ 2ohms). These were both quite capable of hitting extremely hard for a single 10" subwoofer. And yes, the mirrors were shaking alot.
As Dragonrage mentioned an FiQ10 would also be an excellent choice as they are very nice subs.
The Fosgate subs have really not impressed me over the past several years. There amps IMO are ok but I wouldn't use there subs personally. You have to take into consideration after hearing subs like those mentioned earlier, something like a Kicker CVR, Fosgate P anything, and even an Alpine Type-R are not going to compare. I personally like the Type-R ok but compared to others in overall performance you can't beat them.
Another good sub manufacturer I just got is JBL/Harmon Kardon. They are not an FiQ series but still nice for the money. The Power Series P1022 10" sub is a good sub for the money as is the RE Audio SE10 and would still fit and operate in a stealth enclosure.
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Kee knows his stuff, and anything he recomends id take has good stuff. I heard your car at g12 last year Ian, and id love to have your sub setup, sounded amazing. I enjoy my fosgate stuff for now, though. i got both subs, in a box with the amp for 100 bucks. Person said one of the subs was blown, and the amp didnt work. i bought it and sure enough, they had everything wired wrong and tuned wrong. i rewired it and installed it later that day, and they have been hitting great ever since.
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One 8" Kicker Square in a vented box will rock it out... that's what I got. (w/ $100 alpine v12 amp)

NO NEED FOR 2 SUBS =) These squares get LOW LOW and move A LOT of air.



Don't mind my haggered 6x9's. They came with in the car when I got it. =(
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Originally Posted by b.lee
no need for 2 subs =)
symmetry!!!
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b.lee: Actually, they don't move crap. They use very outdated motors with absolute s*** for Xmax. A Fi Q12 will FAR outperform a 12" L7 in displacement AND sound quality. Same @ 10". 8" subwoofers are not as common.
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Hey KEE, you have a PM man. Didn't want to ***** this thread.
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Hey guys, I found this amp on ebay. What do you think of it? Looks pretty good..

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MSCt61i...-MRP-M850.html
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It's fine. Look up the price of a Kenwood KAC-9103d or KAC-9104d and if those are cheaper then get that instead. If the Alpine is cheaper then get it.
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
It's fine. Look up the price of a Kenwood KAC-9103d or KAC-9104d and if those are cheaper then get that instead. If the Alpine is cheaper then get it.
Thanks Dragon. I'll look those up. one more question, the amps say, for example, 800W @ 2ohm and 500W @ 4ohm .. is that relation to the sub or how you wire it to the amp? Sorry, I'm not a genius at stereo but I know a lot more now than I did before.
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That depends on the subwoofer(s) and, if there are multiple voice coils/subwoofers, then how they are wired.

If you got a Fi Q10/Q12, for example, the dual 4 ohm version would be better for those Kenwood amps. And that Alpine, too, it seems.
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I'm most likely getting the Alpine amp as I'm currently the highest bidder and (hopefully) can keep it that way haha. I'm interested in the KE Audio sub that Kee spoke of as well. So for this alpine amp, would a Dual 4OHM voice coil Sub be ideal? And then it would have to be wired like this, I am guessing, since it looks like this would be running @ 2ohm which this amp is most powerful at. Thanks for all your help so far, it's great to finally figure all of this out.

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if the amp is 2ohm stable than yes, and RE is a very good brand you would be happy with an RE SE im sure GREAT SQ
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another good chioce would be a FI SSD series if you have the power https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript you can even get a red dust cap so it will match your car
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Originally Posted by #8sprkplug
another good chioce would be a FI SSD series if you have the power https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript you can even get a red dust cap so it will match your car
Damn that looks pretty nice too. And holy crap 18"? The amp I'm bidding on is 800W RMS so I don't know how well it would work with the SSD10.

So you guys definitely think that the FI's and RE Audio's way outperform the Type-R and others that are similar? I guess it's just because the appearance of the type-r is so nice looking
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Originally Posted by 98 WS6
Damn that looks pretty nice too. And holy crap 18"? The amp I'm bidding on is 800W RMS so I don't know how well it would work with the SSD10.

So you guys definitely think that the FI's and RE Audio's way outperform the Type-R and others that are similar? I guess it's just because the appearance of the type-r is so nice looking
yes it would def outperform a type-r especially in SQ, and 18 isnt anything there was talk about a 22 yes 22" they were messing with.
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Ive gotta FI Q10 sub in my stealth box along with an older model Rockford Fosgate 1000Watt amp. I think that bumps nicely, certain songs that have some deep bass will have the mirror's shake a bit and it also rattles the hatch a bit. Not to the point where you can hear it rattling when i drive by you but standing next to it. You hear it...

I love it lol used to have 2" 12" Rockford Fosgate P2's back there with the same amp and that was rattling all kinds of **** lol Ended up blowing those subs, and changed to this setup.
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I had a Q12 in a stealthbox driven by a JL 500/5 (the subwoofer section is rated 250W, but really does more like 300-350) and it shook the whole car easily enough if the song had bass. You couldn't hear it from way down the street, but my roommate commented on it when I pulled in the first time after I removed it all (to sell the car). "Wow, I just saw something amazing. You pulled into the driveway and your sound wasn't ridiculously loud."
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Just bought an Autotek 1500W mono amplifier. The Alpine one sold for $230.. IMO, I got a much better one for $160 shipped, brand new.

Next up, the sub. I'm pretty sure I got all the info I needed, thanks for all your help guys.
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NP. Also make sure you have a dual-amp wiring kit for your sub. Go with at least 100amp MAXI fuse, 4 gauge wire from the battery, to a distribution block (from the block to the amp can be 8 gauge since you wont be making a long run). There is a screw by the trunk release under the carpeting. Good place for a ground wire to go. For speaker wiring, go about a 16 gauge for the speakers, 12 for the sub. If you can, get a cap. My headlights never dim with that thing.
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Check the specs on that amp. You may want a capacitor to save your alternator / battery.


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