View Poll Results: Best radar detector.
Valentine One
24
60.00%
Passport 9500i
13
32.50%
Other(post which dectector)
3
7.50%
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Valentine One VS Passport 9500i
#41
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Ok, I don't have time to read through this whole thread, but let me just say this- The V1 is the best radar DETECTOR you can buy. It does what it's supposed to do, DETECT radar. It has 2 radar horns to detect, one in the front, and one in the rear. Escort does not have a unit that has two horns besides the bel sti which has 2 horns, but they are both in the front.
And you have to watch out for most radar detector test websites out there because most are bogus... This is a reliable one.
http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html
Here is a website/forum with more information...
radardetector.net
also, V1>belscort
And you have to watch out for most radar detector test websites out there because most are bogus... This is a reliable one.
http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html
Here is a website/forum with more information...
radardetector.net
also, V1>belscort
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9500 ix hands down have both cannot run two at once been there did that. V-1 is good but for less money my daughter's cobra works better than the v-1 easily. V-1 way too much false. We upgrade the escort too! If it came down to a valentine and not having one at all. Personally I would go out and save my money and go without. Or get some aspirin for the stress it causes, besides I just ignore it anyways.
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#47
Glad someone pointed that out. My toaster works better than those cobras.
I own both of these radars. The V1 in my WS6 and the 9500i in my 96 Formula. V1 wins all day, everyday. Range on both detectors is amazing. As pointed out, you can't beat KNOWING WHERE THE RADAR IS COMING FROM!!!!
Arrows FTW
I own both of these radars. The V1 in my WS6 and the 9500i in my 96 Formula. V1 wins all day, everyday. Range on both detectors is amazing. As pointed out, you can't beat KNOWING WHERE THE RADAR IS COMING FROM!!!!
Arrows FTW
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Actually, the arrows are a gimmick put there to make people unfamiliar with radar detectors feel better. Determining where a signal is coming from using the arrows is like pissing yourself in dark colored pants - it gives you a nice warm feeling of accomplishment but nobody notices (or cares).
It really makes no difference which direction a signal comes from. What matters is whether you're approaching the source (or it's approaching you) or you're moving away from it. Arrows don't help determining that. An experienced user can tell if a signal is in front or behind by the pattern and strength of the alert without needing arrows. The only arrow that is useful is indicating a signal from the side that can be ignored but my experience with V1s found that didn't happen very often... at least not until you were passing a signal that already showed up from the front.
It really makes no difference which direction a signal comes from. What matters is whether you're approaching the source (or it's approaching you) or you're moving away from it. Arrows don't help determining that. An experienced user can tell if a signal is in front or behind by the pattern and strength of the alert without needing arrows. The only arrow that is useful is indicating a signal from the side that can be ignored but my experience with V1s found that didn't happen very often... at least not until you were passing a signal that already showed up from the front.
#49
Actually, the arrows are a gimmick put there to make people unfamiliar with radar detectors feel better. Determining where a signal is coming from using the arrows is like pissing yourself in dark colored pants - it gives you a nice warm feeling of accomplishment but nobody notices (or cares).
It really makes no difference which direction a signal comes from. What matters is whether you're approaching the source (or it's approaching you) or you're moving away from it. Arrows don't help determining that. An experienced user can tell if a signal is in front or behind by the pattern and strength of the alert without needing arrows. The only arrow that is useful is indicating a signal from the side that can be ignored but my experience with V1s found that didn't happen very often... at least not until you were passing a signal that already showed up from the front.
It really makes no difference which direction a signal comes from. What matters is whether you're approaching the source (or it's approaching you) or you're moving away from it. Arrows don't help determining that. An experienced user can tell if a signal is in front or behind by the pattern and strength of the alert without needing arrows. The only arrow that is useful is indicating a signal from the side that can be ignored but my experience with V1s found that didn't happen very often... at least not until you were passing a signal that already showed up from the front.
#50
That's because they are still using the same ad photo from the 80's. The Delorean would have never hit 88 miles per hour without a speeding ticket if it weren't for the V1. They can still use the same ad, as they never changed the style. Still the ugliest radar ever manufactured!!
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Certainly there's nothing wrong with the arrows and appreciating the information they give you but really, what difference does it make? Do you react differently depending if a strong signal is in front of you or behind you? For me the important thing is if the signal is increasing or decreasing. Whether I'm approaching a radar trap in front or have a patrol car approaching from behind doesn't really matter - either way I check my speed and slow down as necessary.
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YOU MOST DEFINITELY CANNOT HAVE TWO RADAR DETECTORS IN ONE VEHICLE.......THE WILL F*** WITH EACH OTHER.......Anyway, just bought a 9500 and i was in oc Maryland.....got a signal in the middle of traffic (cars will mess with accuracy, because radar and radar detector sensors bounce off of anything and everything)......i slow down and keep driving, past tons of business and go around a few more turns, and there he is...... 0.6 miles after my 9500ix first initially grabbed a signal.....now this is also cool.....the cop was on the opposite side of the divided highway, with his gun pointed opposite the direction. I thought the 9500 did a good job.....I did a good amount of research before buying, and what i saw was the 9500 and the V1 both outperformed eachother on the guys of lidar detector tests.....Decide whats more important to you.....GPS which number one gives you speedcam and speedtrap warnings, 2 eliminates false alarms after 3 passes. Or unless you want some arrows that light up and tell you where its coming from....Personally tho, i dont need arrows....if its going off, you will be slowing down either way weather you know where its coming from or not.
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Don't know where you heard that but it is not the case. Modern detectors with VG2 protection have very little leakage so they don't interfere with each other. I have done side-by-side testing of radar detectors with no effect on range, false alarms, or accuracy.
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justread this.....
http://www.guysoflidar.com/twodetectors.html
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#55
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99 times out of 100 they will intefere with each other....
justread this.....
http://www.guysoflidar.com/twodetectors.html
justread this.....
http://www.guysoflidar.com/twodetectors.html
Granted, some detectors allow enough of that signal to leak that it becomes a problem. I have experienced this myself with older Whistler and Cobra detectors - sometimes the leakage was so bad that I would have problems even in a car next to one. But quality modern detectors (that does not include Rocky Mountain) have done a good job of limiting emissions and seldom interfere with each other as long as they are not directly side-by-side. I have done my comparison testing with one mounted on each end of the windshield with no detectable degradation of performance.
But it's a very interesting point and I will have to be more aware of it in the future. Perhaps next time I will test the range of a detector by itself and then repeat the test with another detector in the car to see if there is a difference.
#56
Certainly there's nothing wrong with the arrows and appreciating the information they give you but really, what difference does it make? Do you react differently depending if a strong signal is in front of you or behind you? For me the important thing is if the signal is increasing or decreasing. Whether I'm approaching a radar trap in front or have a patrol car approaching from behind doesn't really matter - either way I check my speed and slow down as necessary.
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That's an interesting article and on the face of it they seem to have some knowledge of the subject. However, they ignore some technical aspects of the situation (probably to keep it fairly simple for their audience) that make a significant difference in the real world. For example, oscillators generate strong harmonics only on the odd multiples of the primary frequency - any even multiples generated are filtered and so weak as to be essentially undetectable. Even the odd-multiple harmonics decrease in strength inversely to the multiple (i.e. the harmonic 3 times the primary frequency has only 1/3 the signal strength, 5 times the frequency has 1/5 the strength etc.).
Granted, some detectors allow enough of that signal to leak that it becomes a problem. I have experienced this myself with older Whistler and Cobra detectors - sometimes the leakage was so bad that I would have problems even in a car next to one. But quality modern detectors (that does not include Rocky Mountain) have done a good job of limiting emissions and seldom interfere with each other as long as they are not directly side-by-side. I have done my comparison testing with one mounted on each end of the windshield with no detectable degradation of performance.
But it's a very interesting point and I will have to be more aware of it in the future. Perhaps next time I will test the range of a detector by itself and then repeat the test with another detector in the car to see if there is a difference.
Granted, some detectors allow enough of that signal to leak that it becomes a problem. I have experienced this myself with older Whistler and Cobra detectors - sometimes the leakage was so bad that I would have problems even in a car next to one. But quality modern detectors (that does not include Rocky Mountain) have done a good job of limiting emissions and seldom interfere with each other as long as they are not directly side-by-side. I have done my comparison testing with one mounted on each end of the windshield with no detectable degradation of performance.
But it's a very interesting point and I will have to be more aware of it in the future. Perhaps next time I will test the range of a detector by itself and then repeat the test with another detector in the car to see if there is a difference.