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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 95Kyle
the piaa look like crap.. just doesnt look like a camaro.. looks kinda ricey..lol just the idea of hid excited me. bc noone around my town has them in a camaro. different and def attention drawer. but thats ok,idont mind.

johny lt1runner-im curious on your setup can you post pics plse what brand did you use and how much?

and cobrahunter after all the argueing on this post do you still want to even do this mod? lol
My set up? I still have stock housings, but I ordered some 5900K lights to retro fit into them, they should be here by saturday.
This pic is of the stock light, it comes right out, but it is held in by tabs, so it's more of a pseudo-sealed beam. The bulbs I'm going to put in them don't have tabs, so they will be RTV'd in. Otherwise it's plug 'n' play.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCrasston
Last I knew there wasn't a projector small enough to fit inside the housing. Unless you know of any?
Hmmm... stock housing maybe. I had an LS1 Camaro, which was totally different, so I'm not sure of the dimensions and such for the LT1. So maybe just have a chromed (or whatever similar reflective surface) "surround" for the projector? Wouldn't that be better to you?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Hmmm... stock housing maybe. I had an LS1 Camaro, which was totally different, so I'm not sure of the dimensions and such for the LT1. So maybe just have a chromed (or whatever similar reflective surface) "surround" for the projector? Wouldn't that be better to you?
Its like 2 1/2" by 5" or something..
What do you mean? Don't mount the projector into the housing and basically design/make my own housing?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Hmm, E46 projector is probably your best bet. Lens diameter 2.25". I dunno if it'll fit inside the sealed beam housing if you were to cut open the back of it, or if you'd need to do a custom jobber. Either way, you'd need good clearance behind the bulb since projectors are deep.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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It sucks because I can't just play around with different projectors, I have to buy them and if they don't work I'm pretty much screwed. They can get very expensive which I'm sure you already know.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCrasston
When you figure out a way to put a projector into a eurolamps housing (obviously can't be done in a factory sealed beam), then we can talk about this.
You want to see it done? Get cracking an do it instead of complaining it doesn't exist.

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I DO NOT want to put PIAA or Hella or any other lights in the front of my car that aren't the same dimensions.
I know.

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And I am not talking about 98-02 Firebirds, nor is anyone else in this thread. The title is about an LT1 Camaro.
Its still a Sealed beam headlamp system so it applies.

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Last I knew there wasn't a projector small enough to fit inside the housing. Unless you know of any?
I'll let you know if I find one. You could also buy or make a new housing that looks like the stock one but is a little larger and make it fit in the stock location.

Hella makes a 60mm projector that has decent output but I think its barely too big to fit inside the stock H4351 sealed beam of the Camaro. That is why I suggested finding another housing that is slightly larger that you can make fit or make a new housing that looks like the stock one, but can fit a projector. Hella does make a 50mm that might fit, but I haven't seen how it performs.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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You want to give me the money and the time to do it? Unfortunately I have neither right now. If there was a tried-and-true way to do it I would pay, but I can't afford to keep buying parts that I'm not sure will fit. Know where I'm coming from? I'd gladly help anyone who wants to develop something though in any way i can.

I was talking about the size of the LT1 headlights, not the fact that they are a sealed beam.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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I was talking about the size of the LT1 headlights, not the fact that they are a sealed beam.
Yeah I know. You could at least meet me half way and have a meaningful discussion instead of being completely obstructionist.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP1
Yeah I know. You could at least meet me half way and have a meaningful discussion instead of being completely obstructionist.
Excuse me? If I recall I was agreeing with you about the legality of everything. How am I being obstructionist? I'm trying to have a discussion with you, along with everyone else in this thread. I was just clarifying what I meant.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by EsCrasston
Excuse me? If I recall I was agreeing with you about the legality of everything. How am I being obstructionist? I'm trying to have a discussion with you, along with everyone else in this thread. I was just clarifying what I meant.
OK. Its just that every time I mention a possible option or similarity to another situation it appears that you shoot it down completely seemingly without much thought put into it.

Back on topic, the Hella 60mm projectors are $50 ea. There are High and Low beam versions. A set of 4 (2 hi + 2 lo) would be $200. Unfortunately, they are slightly taller than the stock Camaro sealed beam headlights. Like I mentioned earlier, you might be able to work something out.

Here they are in a custom non-popup conversion on a C5 Corvette:



http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51691
There are better projectors available, but they are all physically larger. Technically, these are Halogen projectors, but they appear to respond well to HID.

Like I said, there are better projector options, but they are physically larger and more expensive. You'll have to get more creative to package them to protect them from the elements and make the result look stock.


You might be able to do something like this:



https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...89-camaro.html
Although those are older-style projectors and there are newer/better options now, but its an idea. Its still an upgrade over the stock lighting. I think these are Halogen projectors though. I'm not sure how well these respond to HID.

I know its a 3rd-gen, I'm posting it for reference. Even if you don't go with those headlights or something similar, the pic may give you an idea of how to make to make the final product look if you decide to go totally custom with HID projectors and custom-built housings.

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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I'm only shooting them down because its not something I want to do; I don't mean any disrespect. The e36 lights look good in the 3rd gen, but I don't know if i would like them in my car. If I were to find a projector small enough, would the lines on the lens of the LT1 housing hinder the performance of the projector?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EsCrasston
If I were to find a projector small enough, would the lines on the lens of the LT1 housing hinder the performance of the projector?
Yes definitely. You'd need a clear lens.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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95Kyle: and cobrahunter after all the arguing on this post do you still want to even do this mod?
The hell with it! I'm just gonna replace the 97's stock 9006 bulbs with a 6000K HID kit. Yeah, I've already replaced the stock low beam headlights with a pair from Eurolights. Done deal!

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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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I just retrofitted 5900K's into the highs and lows. The fogs are silverstars for reference.
A clear difference.


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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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What parts did you use?
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
What parts did you use?
Parts as in bulbs? They're 9005 and 9006, no different than what LS1 camaros use, but I had to pull out the old bulbs that were designed not to come out of the housings, and then fit the new ones and then RTV'd them in place. Compared to what the stock lights were it's a huge difference.
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