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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 95Kyle
dragonrage is talkin so much **** about camaros and the guy F***** drives A G8 come on dude drop it already and stop putting your 2 cents on every f***** post about HIDs you dont own an f-body so dont reply. ppl are looking for info/pics about HID on camaros in example POSITIVE FEEDBACK and INFO. not someone who is totaly against it... In other words SHUT THE **** UP! thank you and have a nice day.



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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 95Kyle
dragonrage is talkin so much **** about camaros and the guy F***** drives A G8 come on dude drop it already and stop putting your 2 cents on every f***** post about HIDs you dont own an f-body so dont reply. ppl are looking for info/pics about HID on camaros in example POSITIVE FEEDBACK and INFO. not someone who is totaly against it... In other words SHUT THE **** UP! thank you and have a nice day.
Don't reply if I don't only have positive feedback? Is that like, "You can have any opinion you want as long as it's the same as mine"? Grow up, will you? I sold my F-body but there's still a G8 section on this forum. The information I'm giving is extremely important and people need to know, because irresponsible people like you who just don't give a crap are trying to mislead them all. You guys come in here and give your "OH YEAH GREAT MAN IT LOOKS AWESOME THAT WAS A DAY'S LUNCH MONEY WELL SPENT" when you have no idea what you're talking about, know nothing about light dispersion or anything and mislead everyone that should be researching the subject into thinking they can get such a "great" result as well, without realizing how crappy it really is.

If you don't like my advice then don't take it, but your car will be so much the worse, and other drivers will hate you. If you want random people that you blind on the road to key your car while it's parked in front of a store, then go for it, kid.

Look at the people in this thread against what you're doing. Whitebird and VIP1 and other people that know what they're talking about. If you don't want to listen to us then just look at the pictures posted earlier in the thread. They look like crap. 99% of the light is doing one of two things: 1) lighting up 2 feet in front of the car; 2) blinding anyone unfortunate enough to be in front of that car.

There have been some proper retrofits done on both Camaros and T/As that looked really good. Example: https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-write-up.html

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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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IMO, the retrofitted projectors in the Firebirds look very good, but I'm still not a fan at all of the ones I've seen in LT1 Camaros.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Hey guys, I'm gonna drop an LS9 in my Miata, but I don't like how the car looks with the chassis reinforcements, so I'm gonna leave those out.


Seriously though, if you really hate the look, you can find D2R (proper HID reflector setups) retrofit stuff around. It's not as good as the projector stuff but it will do the job if you're really that concerned about the looks of a projector.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Don't reply if I don't only have positive feedback? Is that like, "You can have any opinion you want as long as it's the same as mine"? Grow up, will you? I sold my F-body but there's still a G8 section on this forum. The information I'm giving is extremely important and people need to know, because irresponsible people like you who just don't give a crap are trying to mislead them all. You guys come in here and give your "OH YEAH GREAT MAN IT LOOKS AWESOME THAT WAS A DAY'S LUNCH MONEY WELL SPENT" when you have no idea what you're talking about, know nothing about light dispersion or anything and mislead everyone that should be researching the subject into thinking they can get such a "great" result as well, without realizing how crappy it really is.

If you don't like my advice then don't take it, but your car will be so much the worse, and other drivers will hate you. If you want random people that you blind on the road to key your car while it's parked in front of a store, then go for it, kid.

Look at the people in this thread against what you're doing. Whitebird and VIP1 and other people that know what they're talking about. If you don't want to listen to us then just look at the pictures posted earlier in the thread. They look like crap. 99% of the light is doing one of two things: 1) lighting up 2 feet in front of the car; 2) blinding anyone unfortunate enough to be in front of that car.

There have been some proper retrofits done on both Camaros and T/As that looked really good. Example: https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-write-up.html

Ok, me personally, I'm getting tired of this thread and will unsubscribe. I get it Dragonrage, YOU have a real hate on for this subject and it obviously pisses you off! My take on it is, if you are going to PUSH your beliefs towards others, than at least have the decency to phrase what you say as it is IN YOUR OPINION! IMO, you come off as compared to "Bible Thumpers!" Spouting that if you don't believe in God, going to Church on Sundays, or Reading the "Good Book" every sec of everyday, then you will go to Hell!

You talk above about how people will hate you for having this kind of lighting and will key your car in the parking lot.....well thats YOUR OPINION again. Doesn't make it factual that putting this kind of lighting on your car is going to 100% have your car vandalized or anything like that! TO ME, my lighting doesn't look like crap like you have stated! You may think it does, VIP1, Whitebird also might think that, but I DON'T...and That's all that really matters to me!
So go on...keep spouting....I just won't pay any attention.

Have a good day sir!
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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It's not an opinion. When the subject is about MY safety on the road because OTHER PEOPLE want to be douchebags, it is NOT an opinion.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Hey guys, I'm gonna drop an LS9 in my Miata, but I don't like how the car looks with the chassis reinforcements, so I'm gonna leave those out.


Seriously though, if you really hate the look, you can find D2R (proper HID reflector setups) retrofit stuff around. It's not as good as the projector stuff but it will do the job if you're really that concerned about the looks of a projector.
Hey guys, I'm gonna force my beliefs on a whole bunch of people who don't give a rats ***. Talk about beating a dead horse.. and FYI I DO NOT have hids in my Camaro.

If it is that big of a deal to you, why don't YOU develop a way to make it work?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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While I disagree with dragonrage on some topics, he is 100% dead on with this as well as whitebird and vip1. it is a matter of safety
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EsCrasston
You are missing the point!
I didn't miss the point. I covered it and went beyond.

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And you other guys are correct. Along with loud exhausts, illegal emissions, window tint, lowering, etc. Just because something illegal doesn't mean people aren't going to do it. But if you are going to argue about one aspect of something being illegal (in this case, putting hids into halogen housings), you should point out that retrofitting a projector is illegal as well. I disagree when it was said about different levels of illegality as well, mainly because the fine and punishment would most likely be the same for both cases.
I covered that too. In this thread, other threads, and the Lighting FAQ. I draw the line at deliberate versus accidental or not known. Driving with a blinding lighting system is deliberate and causes direct harm to other drivers. Driving with worn tires on a rainy day lands you in a ditch (hopefully not taking others with you).

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My point is that there is no way to retro fit a projector housing into an LT1 Camaro while maintaining a somewhat-factory appearance. Some of us DO NOT want to completely change the look of the front end of our car just to have HID's.
With some effort and forethought you can have a somewhat factory appearance. You don' have to "completely change the look of the front end of the car".

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I get it Dragonrage, YOU have a real hate on for this subject and it obviously pisses you off! My take on it is, if you are going to PUSH your beliefs towards others, than at least have the decency to phrase what you say as it is IN YOUR OPINION! IMO,
This is not "opinion", but measurable scientific fact. Its like looking at a RED car and saying "in my opinion its BLUE".

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If it is that big of a deal to you, why don't YOU develop a way to make it work?
Actually a while back, LED Gauges and I were collaborating on a setup for 1998-2002 Firebirds, but it didn't get much further than measurements / discussions / brain storming so I went on my own and modded my car for projectors.

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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 95Kyle
dragonrage is talkin so much **** about camaros and the guy F***** drives A G8 come on dude drop it already and stop putting your 2 cents on every f***** post about HIDs you dont own an f-body so dont reply. ppl are looking for info/pics about HID on camaros in example POSITIVE FEEDBACK and INFO. not someone who is totaly against it... In other words SHUT THE **** UP! thank you and have a nice day.
Lets be civil. This discussion is getting too heated. No need to take juvenile pot shots.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP1
With some effort and forethought you can have a somewhat factory appearance. You don' have to "completely change the look of the front end of the car".
Your key word here is "somewhat." I don't want it to look somewhat factory. I want it to look factory. (i.e. FACTORY HOUSINGS). When you figure out a way to put a projector into a eurolamps housing (obviously can't be done in a factory sealed beam), then we can talk about this. I DO NOT want to put PIAA or Hella or any other lights in the front of my car that aren't the same dimensions. And I am not talking about 98-02 Firebirds, nor is anyone else in this thread. The title is about an LT1 Camaro.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Nobody's even going to see. The lights in an LT1 Camaro are recessed so far. But if you refuse to have any look other than stock then stick to halogen. That's the worst argument.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Nobody's even going to see. The lights in an LT1 Camaro are recessed so far. But if you refuse to have any look other than stock then stick to halogen. That's the worst argument.
Look at my sig pic. You can easily see the lights. Round lights (projector housings) just mess up the whole front end of an LT1 Camaro.

Off topic here, but this thread has really gotten out of hand.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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No, actually, I can't really tell. I can see them but not in much detail. And that's a much lower angle than people would see it from up close.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Nobody's even going to see. The lights in an LT1 Camaro are recessed so far. But if you refuse to have any look other than stock then stick to halogen. That's the worst argument.
You just like to argue, don't you? How is it the worst argument when it is about MY opinion dealing with MY car? Just because I don't want to change something on MY OWN vehicle doesn't mean its the worst argument. Its not that I wouldn't change it if someone were to develop a way to do it while keeping a rectangular style housing the same size as the current one, but that hasn't happened yet. I told you several times that I don't like the retrofittings people have done in LT1 Camaros. I respect the time and effort that was put into them, but its not something I would do to my car. Its like any other mod; some people like it and some people don't but that's not the point. Just because you don't like something or think it should be a certain way doesn't mean you should go around bashing it or saying its the worst argument or ugly or whatever, whether it is legal or not.
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Tell me again that you can't notice, please.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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No, actually, I can't really tell. I can see them but not in much detail. And that's a much lower angle than people would see it from up close.
You must be blind then, it's obvious that they're rectangles. That's the exact angle you would see them from if you were in another F or Y body. That's a 15 yard distance btw.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Pretty sure I'm not blind.

Es, why not just keep the rectangle reflector but put the projector in the middle? There's no reason the projector has to be surrounded by blackness. And I'm not sure why that car has 4 projectors. It should be 2 + 2 regular halogens. Those things would make it not noticeable. (OR hardly so.)
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Pretty sure I'm not blind.

Es, why not just keep the rectangle reflector but put the projector in the middle? There's no reason the projector has to be surrounded by blackness. And I'm not sure why that car has 4 projectors. It should be 2 + 2 regular halogens. Those things would make it not noticeable. (OR hardly so.)
Last I knew there wasn't a projector small enough to fit inside the housing. Unless you know of any?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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the piaa look like crap.. just doesnt look like a camaro.. looks kinda ricey..lol just the idea of hid excited me. bc noone around my town has them in a camaro. different and def attention drawer. but thats ok,idont mind.

johny lt1runner-im curious on your setup can you post pics plse what brand did you use and how much?

and cobrahunter after all the argueing on this post do you still want to even do this mod? lol
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