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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 07:21 PM
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The pics from the original how-to thread are too old and are not being hosted anymore. Does anyone know of another write up for this? or have the pics somewhere?
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http://6litereaterdesigns.com/forum/...hp?topic=710.0

http://www.camarozone.com/forum/f20/...dow-fix-23707/
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That thread and the kit is for the dinosaurs. Dorman has come out with a new motor design that resolves the issues with the original circa-1969 motor that was put on the cars from the factory.

Going with the bypass is a very expensive and time consuming way to address a $35 problem.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
That thread and the kit is for the dinosaurs. Dorman has come out with a new motor design that resolves the issues with the original circa-1969 motor that was put on the cars from the factory.

Going with the bypass is a very expensive and time consuming way to address a $35 problem.
Is that the only one dorman sells now or is there more than 1 model?
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Originally Posted by slowbrakiller
Is that the only one dorman sells now or is there more than 1 model?
I think they also sell remans for the old design. I don't see the new design on their site, so it could be under a different brand name, now. The new design looks like this:



vs. the old:

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I dont see it on their site either. I thought the fault was in the wiring going to the motor which would cause premature wear. How would a new designed motor affect that?
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Originally Posted by slowbrakiller
I thought the fault was in the wiring going to the motor which would cause premature wear.
This is internet mythology. The story/myth goes that there is a voltage drop in the wiring to the motor. The flaw in that is that the motors from the factory worked fine and the problem pops up on both sides of the car. (The voltage measured at the two motors is also over 12V, so there's no technical issue there.)

The bypass will apply a slightly higher voltage to the motor, which makes a bad motor look better. You can also just fix the problem - which is really the crappy motor.

If you lookup the stock motor in a parts cross-reference, you'll find that it was installed on cars in the '60s. IMO - it really had no business in being on these 1990's cars in the first place.
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This is internet mythology. The story/myth goes that there is a voltage drop in the wiring to the motor. The flaw in that is that the motors from the factory worked fine and the problem pops up on both sides of the car. (The voltage measured at the two motors is also over 12V, so there's no technical issue there.)

The bypass will apply a slightly higher voltage to the motor, which makes a bad motor look better. You can also just fix the problem - which is really the crappy motor.

If you lookup the stock motor in a parts cross-reference, you'll find that it was installed on cars in the '60s. IMO - it really had no business in being on these 1990's cars in the first place.
Neither did the 82 S10 10 bolt but thats another story lol. Ive been doing some more searching for those motors and came up empty handed
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This is one of those things that you'll want to get from a local parts store, so you can see it in real life before you buy.

Originally AutoZone carried the new motor design, then Dorman picked it up as one of their branded products. Maybe Dorman has dropped it? I'd start with a trip to a local AZ and see what they have on the shelf.
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Thanks for the info guys, I was going to pick up a new motor in the next week or two, now I can target the newer model.
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Good Info to know. Thanks guys!
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Please post back with what you all find as far as brands/designs. Something definitely appears to be up with what brand name is being stickered on the new design.
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I did not pick one up from the store, I pulled it out (AC Delco) of our totaled Bird that was in use about six months. Works amazing compared to the stock one, while I had the panel pulled I fixed the crack in the panel.......was a good day!

I thought the stock one would be AC Delco, but it was not.
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I had AutoZone send me one and it was the old design
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Originally Posted by slowbrakiller
I had AutoZone send me one and it was the old design
Send you one through the mail? Or did you go to the store.

I just went to their web site and it only looks like they have the one option for the original design.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Send you one through the mail? Or did you go to the store.

I just went to their web site and it only looks like they have the one option for the original design.
I work at a dealership and I just had them send one over. Search this number on their site (88960088) seems to be sold through ACI Auto. I wont have it in my hands till tomorrow so I dont know for sure until then
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I work at a dealership and I just had them send one over. Search this number on their site (88960088) seems to be sold through ACI Auto. I wont have it in my hands till tomorrow so I dont know for sure until then
They have a Dorman, ACI, and Cardone reman on their web site. I'd expect the only one that would have a chance at being the new design would be the Dorman - but they are showing a picture of the old design, now. (That didn't used to be the case.)
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Originally Posted by wssix99
They have a Dorman, ACI, and Cardone reman on their web site. I'd expect the only one that would have a chance at being the new design would be the Dorman - but they are showing a picture of the old design, now. (That didn't used to be the case.)
The pic for ACI is the new design
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