Kill switch....can this be done....
Kill switch....can this be done.... I'm not sure how kill switches work that cuts the fuel off, I can only assume it has to do with the fuel pump power supply.
But.....Can the wiring harness for the fuel injectors be spliced into so a kill switch can be installed?
I'm talking about 4 mini toggle switches that I can choose in which position they all should selected to so power can go to the fuel injectors. If any of the 4 toggles is not in the correct (up/down) position power will remain interrupted.
Seems like the easiest way to stop anyone from driving off with the car anyway......
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But.....Can the wiring harness for the fuel injectors be spliced into so a kill switch can be installed?
I'm talking about 4 mini toggle switches that I can choose in which position they all should selected to so power can go to the fuel injectors. If any of the 4 toggles is not in the correct (up/down) position power will remain interrupted.
Seems like the easiest way to stop anyone from driving off with the car anyway......
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I dunno if I would cut fuel to the car for what your wanting to do. I had something similar done to mine back in the day when I lived in a not so pleasant part of town. I bought a solenoid that cut power to the starter when engaged and when not engaged it worked normal. Run the other power wire from it to a switch that's hidden to your likings a viola.
I used one that was like this... http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/30206
But search around and you can find one that's cheaper than that. Hope that'll work for ya.
I used one that was like this... http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcat/30206
But search around and you can find one that's cheaper than that. Hope that'll work for ya.
Sounds like four additional opportunities for catastrophic failure to occur while you are driving. I'd also be concerned about a degradation in injector performance from the additional wiring.
There are 101 ways to disable the car from starting, so I'm not sure what this new method would provide you.
IMO - Best to let any would-be criminal have the car and use a system like Lo-Jack to recover the car. I've always thought that disabling systems will just encourage any criminal to do more damage trying to get the car to move.
There are 101 ways to disable the car from starting, so I'm not sure what this new method would provide you.
IMO - Best to let any would-be criminal have the car and use a system like Lo-Jack to recover the car. I've always thought that disabling systems will just encourage any criminal to do more damage trying to get the car to move.
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I installed a starter interrupt using a relay wired to a button that already exists in the car. The button is always there so it's hiding in plain sight. you don't hold the button down, the car won't start. I've also got about 3 other interrupts but its easy enough just wiring through relays
I asked about the fuel injector cut-off because I saw it on a couple of show cars recently here in Dubai....but they wouldn't say how they wired it up.....lol
I guess the starter is the smarter way to go after reading these posts.
Or just wire it so the fuel pump will not operate.
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I guess the starter is the smarter way to go after reading these posts.
Or just wire it so the fuel pump will not operate.
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Sounds like four additional opportunities for catastrophic failure to occur while you are driving. I'd also be concerned about a degradation in injector performance from the additional wiring.
There are 101 ways to disable the car from starting, so I'm not sure what this new method would provide you.
IMO - Best to let any would-be criminal have the car and use a system like Lo-Jack to recover the car. I've always thought that disabling systems will just encourage any criminal to do more damage trying to get the car to move.
There are 101 ways to disable the car from starting, so I'm not sure what this new method would provide you.
IMO - Best to let any would-be criminal have the car and use a system like Lo-Jack to recover the car. I've always thought that disabling systems will just encourage any criminal to do more damage trying to get the car to move.
I already have a system thats way better than LoJack. GPS tracker thats half the size of a cigarette pack, hard wired to the battery. Uses GPS signals and then reverts to cell signals for triangulation if its under a bridge, in a tunnel or in a building...even picks up cell signals in an all-brick storage unit. It sends a text message, email and phone call if the car leaves a 10 meter diameter circle from where its parked. Then I can watch it on a street map driving down the road to tell the cops exactly where it is.
But, I really cannot have anyone joyriding my car....as it will have 1,300+ RWHP pretty soon and most likely it'll get wrapped around a pole by the thief or they will destroy the engine, turbo, tranny, rear-end, etc..... I would rather a thief put it on a flatbed...it will be recovered in 15 minutes. Hopefully by the cops and not by me....
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I hear ya...why mess with factory wiring for some systems.
I already have a system thats way better than LoJack. GPS tracker thats half the size of a cigarette pack, hard wired to the battery. Uses GPS signals and then reverts to cell signals for triangulation if its under a bridge, in a tunnel or in a building...even picks up cell signals in an all-brick storage unit. It sends a text message, email and phone call if the car leaves a 10 meter diameter circle from where its parked. Then I can watch it on a street map driving down the road to tell the cops exactly where it is.
But, I really cannot have anyone joyriding my car....as it will have 1,300+ RWHP pretty soon and most likely it'll get wrapped around a pole by the thief or they will destroy the engine, turbo, tranny, rear-end, etc..... I would rather a thief put it on a flatbed...it will be recovered in 15 minutes. Hopefully by the cops and not by me....
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I already have a system thats way better than LoJack. GPS tracker thats half the size of a cigarette pack, hard wired to the battery. Uses GPS signals and then reverts to cell signals for triangulation if its under a bridge, in a tunnel or in a building...even picks up cell signals in an all-brick storage unit. It sends a text message, email and phone call if the car leaves a 10 meter diameter circle from where its parked. Then I can watch it on a street map driving down the road to tell the cops exactly where it is.
But, I really cannot have anyone joyriding my car....as it will have 1,300+ RWHP pretty soon and most likely it'll get wrapped around a pole by the thief or they will destroy the engine, turbo, tranny, rear-end, etc..... I would rather a thief put it on a flatbed...it will be recovered in 15 minutes. Hopefully by the cops and not by me....
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I just bought a Viper 5906V with nearly every add-on available, I think the GPS was an add on extra but didn't buy it, wasn't sure what it did other than remote starting the car from Alaska and the car being in Texas. Cost me $500, I'm installing it, gonna be REAL fun.
I'm not taking any chances either, criminals around here are literally stealing or renting tow trucks then going and stealing peoples cars making it look like a repo job.
I got the tilt sensor, glass break sensor, motion field sensor, battery back up etc. so the thief will only be left with taking the car by flat bed or tow truck.
What alarm do you have or are you still running the stocker with GPS tracker?
I ll throw my suggestions/questions/ideas into the mix.
From what I know , VATS disables the fuel injectors and the starter if the chip on key isn't right.
Can/should it be leveraged to be used as kill switch ?
My Thoughts on GPS tracking.
It is reactive, and not proactive.
Scenario A:
If your car is stolen from your driveway while you are sleep , then you can track it.
This is only after the fact , you know the car is gone.
Geo Fence is proactive
Scenerio B:
If you are away on vacation or in a store while your car gets stolen , a GPS tracking device that has feature of what's called "geo fence" is much more effective and proactive in letting you know the car has moved without your knowledge.
Geo fence in a nutshell - this GPS device sends you a text if the car moved x amount of distance without your "permission".
You can set up a geo fence by hiding a cheap smartphone that's hard wired in your car.
Providers like AT&T offer services like geo fence for parents to keep eyes on kids so they don't leave home or school at a time parent didn't expect it to.
Then it allows parents to track the kids phone, essentially the kids.
From what I know , VATS disables the fuel injectors and the starter if the chip on key isn't right.
Can/should it be leveraged to be used as kill switch ?
My Thoughts on GPS tracking.
It is reactive, and not proactive.
Scenario A:
If your car is stolen from your driveway while you are sleep , then you can track it.
This is only after the fact , you know the car is gone.
Geo Fence is proactive
Scenerio B:
If you are away on vacation or in a store while your car gets stolen , a GPS tracking device that has feature of what's called "geo fence" is much more effective and proactive in letting you know the car has moved without your knowledge.
Geo fence in a nutshell - this GPS device sends you a text if the car moved x amount of distance without your "permission".
You can set up a geo fence by hiding a cheap smartphone that's hard wired in your car.
Providers like AT&T offer services like geo fence for parents to keep eyes on kids so they don't leave home or school at a time parent didn't expect it to.
Then it allows parents to track the kids phone, essentially the kids.
I have a hidden fuel cut off switch that a good friend rigged up for me. It works and is very cost effective. Its made from speaker wire, toggle switch, and heat shrink. This goes with a very sensitve aftermarket alarm and an Autolock. Haha
at one point I had wired in a push button start but you still had to put the key into switched ignition for it to work........the push button was hidden.
I buddy of mine that isntalled stereo's used to do all kinds of these setups, where an existing control **** or switch was tied to the ignition switch, sometimes in series so everything would have to be just right for it to start.
wouldnt mess with the injector wiring though, you could always put the fuel pump on a switch if you are really dead set on this kind of thing, but as another member said this entices them to do more damage if they cant get the car to start.
I buddy of mine that isntalled stereo's used to do all kinds of these setups, where an existing control **** or switch was tied to the ignition switch, sometimes in series so everything would have to be just right for it to start.
wouldnt mess with the injector wiring though, you could always put the fuel pump on a switch if you are really dead set on this kind of thing, but as another member said this entices them to do more damage if they cant get the car to start.
What GPS tracker do you have? I need one.
I just bought a Viper 5906V with nearly every add-on available, I think the GPS was an add on extra but didn't buy it, wasn't sure what it did other than remote starting the car from Alaska and the car being in Texas. Cost me $500, I'm installing it, gonna be REAL fun.
I'm not taking any chances either, criminals around here are literally stealing or renting tow trucks then going and stealing peoples cars making it look like a repo job.
I got the tilt sensor, glass break sensor, motion field sensor, battery back up etc. so the thief will only be left with taking the car by flat bed or tow truck.
What alarm do you have or are you still running the stocker with GPS tracker?
I just bought a Viper 5906V with nearly every add-on available, I think the GPS was an add on extra but didn't buy it, wasn't sure what it did other than remote starting the car from Alaska and the car being in Texas. Cost me $500, I'm installing it, gonna be REAL fun.
I'm not taking any chances either, criminals around here are literally stealing or renting tow trucks then going and stealing peoples cars making it look like a repo job.
I got the tilt sensor, glass break sensor, motion field sensor, battery back up etc. so the thief will only be left with taking the car by flat bed or tow truck.
What alarm do you have or are you still running the stocker with GPS tracker?
Here's the Zoombak that I have. Its still in the box and I'm looking into other newer GPS trackers. But the Zoombak will guarantee you never, ever, lose your car. So with kill switches the only way they can take the car is with a flatbed.....then have the car surrounded by cops and you get your car back in good condition. Allowing a thief to drive away with my car is not an option....
I got one after my friend was home watching TV when his text alert went off. It said his $250,000 Formula race boat had just left the "ZONE" he made around the boat. When he went to the kitchen to look out the window....he saw a small boat towing his Formula down the canal. He called the police and his neighborhood was swarmed with cop cars. Also, lucky for him, which is pretty normal in Ft. Lauderdale, a Sheriff helicopter was already in the air and it came over in 15 minutes and hovered over the boat being towed.......hahahaha.....hilarious.
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I got one after my friend was home watching TV when his text alert went off. It said his $250,000 Formula race boat had just left the "ZONE" he made around the boat. When he went to the kitchen to look out the window....he saw a small boat towing his Formula down the canal. He called the police and his neighborhood was swarmed with cop cars. Also, lucky for him, which is pretty normal in Ft. Lauderdale, a Sheriff helicopter was already in the air and it came over in 15 minutes and hovered over the boat being towed.......hahahaha.....hilarious.
I've actually repo'ed two jets in the past......big money in that. The guy that hired me to go with him was working for the bank, on one repo job he made $30,000 in one night. He paid me $2,500 to fly as Captain because he was not Type-Rated on the Learjet 55. Took us 3 hours total: to drive to the airport in Naples from Lauderdale, pre-flight the plane, then fly it 20 minutes back to Ft. Lauderdale Int'l. Fun work.....
Boat repos pay about the same in a lot of cases. Some cases...more.
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Another thought on the kill switch is wiring it up to your starter. Had that in my old third gen. You needed the key to unlock the steering column and had to push the hidden button to crank the starter.