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Got weird problems with electrical [radio, power windows thing]. Probably need Body control module. Its a 2001 WS6 TA. Anyone know where I can get one? Nobody wants to fix the one in the car [I know its probably just solder joint].
Got weird problems with electrical [radio, power windows thing]. Probably need Body control module. Its a 2001 WS6 TA. Anyone know where I can get one? Nobody wants to fix the one in the car [I know its probably just solder joint].
Thanks,
fastertransam
I'm not sure how they differ by year, but getting a part number would be the first step. Then I would reach out to the numerous "part out" owners posts in the forum marketplace section, as well as creating a "wanting to buy" post for yourself. If that fails, id check eBay and junkyards. Then finally buying remanufactured/new, if that is still an option.
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
If it is just the radio and power windows cutting out (basically the RAP circuit) then it is almost certainly the solder joint in the BCM. Repairing it is quite simple - it's actually more trouble to get the BCM out from behind the glove box than it is to repair the solder joint... and you'd have to do that anyway to replace it. Any reason you wouldn't want to make the repair yourself?
The part number is 9353691 and although GM considers it discontinued, there are still a few places online which claim to have it available. Still, for $175+, I would try fixing it before buying a new one.
If it is just the radio and power windows cutting out (basically the RAP circuit) then it is almost certainly the solder joint in the BCM. Repairing it is quite simple - it's actually more trouble to get the BCM out from behind the glove box than it is to repair the solder joint... and you'd have to do that anyway to replace it. Any reason you wouldn't want to make the repair yourself?
The part number is 9353691 and although GM considers it discontinued, there are still a few places online which claim to have it available. Still, for $175+, I would try fixing it before buying a new one.
Thanks. If you could tell me where the few places online that claim to have it available are, that would be appreciated. Otherwise, I can try the repair route, but I can't find anyone who wants to do it here, and I am not crazy about doing it myself as I don't have the solder gun exoerience and if I screw it up then I have no car.
Is it the BCM solder joint if ONLY the window motors are affected? My driver window will ALMOST always work immediately but sometimes takes a few minutes of driving. The passenger window motor will always need some time and then later it will work.
Maybe I've had a radio issue in the past a few times.....but really never.
Is it the BCM solder joint if ONLY the window motors are affected? My driver window will ALMOST always work immediately but sometimes takes a few minutes of driving. The passenger window motor will always need some time and then later it will work.
Maybe I've had a radio issue in the past a few times.....but really never.
I think if the BCM is involved, then its usually the radio and the windows both. But someone may know better than me. I know with mine, if the window doesn't work, then, if I turn the car off, push the window up button and then turn the car on, the window will start working.
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Originally Posted by fastertransam
Thanks. If you could tell me where the few places online that claim to have it available are, that would be appreciated. Otherwise, I can try the repair route, but I can't find anyone who wants to do it here, and I am not crazy about doing it myself as I don't have the solder gun exoerience and if I screw it up then I have no car.
Thanks,
fastertransam
I just googled bcm 9353691 and found a couple of non-GM sites in the results. The first one lists them at $175 but shows them backordered. A place called the auto ecm store apparently has rebuilt ones for $295 net ($395 less $100 core charge)... no link provided because they are not a sponsor. They may or may not actually have them available.
Even without any soldering experience, repairing the solder joint is quite simple. Get yourself a pencil soldering iron - no need for a fancy soldering gun. For about $12 you can get a kit that includes the iron, solder, and multiple tips with free 1-day shipping if you're an Amazon Prime member. Then find a flat piece of plastic like the blister-pak that the iron comes in and practice creating a nice smooth, fairly flat blob of solder without melting the plastic. Once you can do that, you can do the same thing on the BCM circuit board without risking damaging it. You'll be surprised how easy it is. Just make sure you allow enough time for the iron to heat up completely before starting and then the solder will melt into place very quickly without needing to leave the iron in contact with it long enough to melt the plastic underneath.
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Originally Posted by JOHNNY59
I have the correct resistor pellet for the bcm. I offered you a quick and cheap fix.
Very true! There is nothing wrong with getting a used BCM as long as you get the original key or at least the resistor value associated with it. Then you can either bypass VATS using that resistance value or you can get an ignition key blank with the correct pellet and have it cut to match your ignition cylinder (i.e. your existing key).
Very true! There is nothing wrong with getting a used BCM as long as you get the original key or at least the resistor value associated with it. Then you can either bypass VATS using that resistance value or you can get an ignition key blank with the correct pellet and have it cut to match your ignition cylinder (i.e. your existing key).
Whitebird00, exactly I have help so many members on Tech with bcm problems,but some people don't want help and I'm ok with that.
I just googled bcm 9353691 and found a couple of non-GM sites in the results. The first one lists them at $175 but shows them backordered. A place called the auto ecm store apparently has rebuilt ones for $295 net ($395 less $100 core charge)... no link provided because they are not a sponsor. They may or may not actually have them available.
Even without any soldering experience, repairing the solder joint is quite simple. Get yourself a pencil soldering iron - no need for a fancy soldering gun. For about $12 you can get a kit that includes the iron, solder, and multiple tips with free 1-day shipping if you're an Amazon Prime member. Then find a flat piece of plastic like the blister-pak that the iron comes in and practice creating a nice smooth, fairly flat blob of solder without melting the plastic. Once you can do that, you can do the same thing on the BCM circuit board without risking damaging it. You'll be surprised how easy it is. Just make sure you allow enough time for the iron to heat up completely before starting and then the solder will melt into place very quickly without needing to leave the iron in contact with it long enough to melt the plastic underneath.
Just had a BCM problem creep up with my car. Was driving and all of a sudden I lost my radio and started to smell something burning. Then noticed my power windows wouldn't go down. (all else seems to work?) Circuits for radio and windows are fine. I pulled the BCM and found the smell. There's a burn mark under one of the relays. It must have somehow shorted out. I could not find any broken solder joints in this area. It's my luck that this happens just after the BCM's are discontinued.
Has anyone had any luck with the BCM repair services? There's an ebay seller named repair job that sells a repair service for these BCM's where you send in your unit for repair and it's sent back to you fixed for $95. Not sure if my unit is too far gone though. Might try it as it looks cheaper than a used BCM and I could maybe avoid the key issues if it works out.
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
The blackened area on the underside in your second photo is exactly where the bad solder joints cause the RAP circuit failure which affects the radio and windows.
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