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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 01:40 AM
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RIGHT CLICK, SAVE AS: www.teamamp.com/brahma.mpg

No BS here, I've been into car audio for the past years and have been doing installs for the past 3 years. I'm currently competing and am the Tennessee State Champion in sound quality, but my ride gets plenty loud too. Now granted if you're used to 150+ dB then my car won't be loud to you but I've done 143.8 dB and I've since revised my install and should be able to pull a 144, and this is all sealed. I'm going to step up to a Brahma 15 and I should be doing 146ish sealed, and I'll also have a ported box for SPL comps (I'm an SQ or sound quality guy but do wanna get loud from time to time) and I should be close to if not breaking 150 dB, all with a single 15 and 1200w. I'll lay it out for ya since these are some lesser known companies and the only quality product I've seen mentioned in this thread that can hang with these guys are Strokers (Cerwin-Vega!) and JL W7s (but the price is ridiculous when a Brahma does the same thing).

www.edesignaudio.com
www.adireaudio.com

Affordable:
Subs - Elemental Designs E12K (K Series)
Subs - Adire Audio Shiva
Amps - JBL (search ebay or www.ikesound.com )
Amps - USAcoustics (search ebay or www.ubid.com )

Top Notch Stuff:
Subs - Adire Audio Brahma www.adireaudio.com Best sub out there IMO for getting loud as hell while still sounding good. Click on Car Audio, then Drivers, then Brahma. Constant power of 1600w, peak power of 4800w, and there have been tests where a Brahma 15 has taken 32,000, yes, THIRTY TWO THOUSAND watts of power and handled it just fine <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Plus Adire Audio has hands down the best customer service of anyone I've ever dealt with. A true class act. Long live Adire.
Subs - Elemental Designs E15SP
Amps - Avionixx www.avionixx.com or www.edesignaudio.com
Amps - JL Audio, I'm not a fan of their speakers but their amps are real jewels. Awesome power.

My signature isn't up to date but I run a Sony CDX-C90, XDP-210EQ, Rainbow Pro components soon to upgrade to Adire Audio Koda components, Adire Audio Brahma 12" soon to upgrade to a 15", and Avinoixx 400.2 (125x2 constant) and 1200.2 (1200x1 constant) amps. Just putting out some lesser known brands that top most of the well known brands.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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OK, very intersting But still no good. And this is why 1600rms (what per coil?) 3" coil (small). I think these sups would be loud. The distance the cone moves is not the only thing that makes is loud. As you see in the video the cone is being maxed with out a pined shaft. This sub will tear the cone,coil or suround. I have seen pics that maybe only 2 dozen people have seen for subs that blow all that away. BRAHMA <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> It should sound good once, twice, maybe more put then <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" />
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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OH and my RockFords are 2000 per coil, with 4" coils. The Vegas are at 5600watts each at .667omhs. If you have 50grand I will sell you a 32" 50,000 watt sub <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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NOTE: Please note that I'm not an *** nor am I trying to come off as one in this thread, but it urks me when someone who doesn't know a whole lot thinks they wrote the book on car audio. I'm no expert but I know enough to get me by, and the following post will show you that 2FAST4U doesn't. 2FAST, you're in over you're head here. I'm not some high school stereo newbie. The BS and big numbers doesn't work here. I've been studying and learning in the car audio field for over 5 years, and have been building systems for the past 3 years. Currently I'm competing and winning, and I'm the Tennessee state champion in my class at sound quality, but if I wanted to I could build a car that would get loud as all hell. Many people think my setup now does. I don't know everything by a long shot, but I'm informed enough to know what I'm talking about and smart enough to keep my mouth shut when I don't know what I'm talking about. I've got credentials, I've got a state winning system that I installed and tuned entirely by myself, and I'm not any kind of rich kid or anything nor have I had any training. I'm just a regular guy who built a well thought out system whch happens to win. Can you say the same? Can you prove it? Pics of me and my trophies are on my webpage not to mention you can to MECA's website and see that I have won and I'm not making stuff up. So now onto your errors...........

First off, you have proved your ignorance to me. Obviously you're either uninformed and miseducated, or spouting off BS. The pin on the Stroker is used to tighten or loosen the suspension of the sub (being the dual spiders). If you have this set wrong you'll mess that sub up quick if you're running big power to that sub. How about the fact that at TN State Championships there was a guy with a wall in an Explorer with two 15" CV Strokers and two amps per sub, and he was doing 151.4s, and at the same time a single Brahma 15 in a box, not a wall, in the back of an Chevy S10 (which happens to be a very hard vehicle to get loud loud in) with only 800w was doing 150.5, yes, two Stokers and massive power in a wall can only manage to eek by a Brahma with only 800w by NO MORE THNA A DECIBEL, and the Brahma had 1/5th of the power and no wall. Secondly, you've obviously never dealt with a Brahma (which BTW the 1600w was total RMS for music, so 800w RMS per coil. I've seen and sat in personally a van that had 2500w per Brahma 15 an will soon have 5000w per Brahma 15 and it has no problems whatsoever). I was only at 90% in that video, the sub can move more. In a sealed box movement is indicative of SPL, the only air moving is what the sub itself moves. There are only a few subs on the market that are comparable to the Brahma within a few hundred bucks that can move more than the Brahma, and a W7 or Stroker aren't included in those two (See Adire Audio Tumult and Resonant Engineering XXX to name most of them). Third, and this is where the misinformation really shines through, a 3" coil isn't small. Actually, anything over a 3" coil is inefficient and hurts SPL in most cases. A 3" coil has more than enough capacity to dissipate heat from big time power, maybe you didn't see the part about the Brahma taking 32,000 watts. And lastly, that Brahma will not tear the surround, spider, or anything else for that matter. The sub was designed to throw far, all the parts work together to achieve that. That sub has been in my car for over 6 months and it's still playing in the video isn't it? I can walk outside right now, crank up the volume, and the sub will still be playing, just like the past 6 months. Brahma is very durable, can handle high power, hits the low bass very very well, and has amazing sound quality due to the XBL^2 technology Adire has developed. Tell me 2FAST4U, do you even know what BL is and how it relates to a sub's performance? You posts in this topic have been chocked full of misleading and flat out wrong information. I would put money on it that given equal power and both in boxes that woudl fit in an F-Body, there isn't a single sub in Rockford's line up that would even touch a Brahma's performance much less a Resonant Engineering XXX or Elemental Design's e15SP or other subs that aren't so well known but are awesome products. Rockford is pretty much crap these days, it's time to accept it and move on.

"It's better to be thought a fool and remain quiet rather than speak and remove all doubt."

If this post right here doesn't prove that you're misinformed about this stuff then I don't know what else to say. What you are saying has no merit, it's all wrong. I was there too, everyone has to start somewhere. The problem I see here is that I knew I didn't know anything and still know that I don't know much, whereas you're in the beginner's stage but think you know everything. See above quote please. Hope this has helped some.

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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 02:20 AM
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Also, maybe you missed the part about the Brahma taking 32,000 watts of power tested by Richard Clark (a well know and reputable guy in the car audio field), and that was power the sub took while putting on CLEAN, UNDISTORTED output. He ran out of amp. The sub could have taken more. The same can not be said for your RF sub. Also, I guess since the JL W7 moves quite a bit as well without a pin it's gonna self destruct too right? Please, take a seat, pull up a chair, and get on some real audio sites with real audio people and learn a thing or two.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by josh99ta:
<strong> How about the fact that at TN State Championships there was a guy with a wall in an Explorer with two 15" CV Strokers and two amps per sub, and he was doing 154s, and at the same time a single Brahma 15 in a box, not a wall, in the back of an Chevy S10 (which happens to be a very hard vehicle to get loud loud in) with only 800w was doing 150.5, yes, only about 3-4 dB quieter with I'd bet 1/5th of the power and no wall. .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> HOLD IT>>>>HOLD IT!
First off....Josh....relax.....

Second...the Dual 15 inch strokers in the walled off Explorer did 151.4db
M3 Second Place
http://meca.proboards11.com/index.cg...num=1035221216

I'm in PS1 with 150.5db he only escaped by .9 of a db (thats less than a full db) not no 3 or 4 db...

I'm personally offended that you even made that mistake. But i do have 1/2 the cone area, 1/5th the power and no wall..so at least you got that right...
Ok...Honor is defended...back to the argument... carry on..

Marshall....black00

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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> heheheheheh...
MAN!...WOW.....WHOA....were to start....

Hmmmmm......that last post was a doozy...LOL...

ya know what...forget it..... Its getting too deep in here...
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2FAST4U:
<strong>First off seat back and breath you are going to have some real problems with high stress. OK now the sub was ok but there is better that is all. I have seen allot of people hear sh*t and think it is true or go to sites and read some stuff and thing OMG this is the best because well it says right hear. I will give you credit and call my rockford rep. we will look at the tec. info and maybe sit down with Pioneer, Vega, and Rockford. With all the tec. guys and give it a run. Not to blow my own horn but I work on prototype audio that is crazy. And I have 2 friends that have won trophes in audio to (whoop whooo). But the most important thing is relaxe it is not like you own this company or are sponsored by them. These is only a forum no one is getting prizes. It is a little nice to see you so passately about your Brahmas. I am much more interested in hearing what you think of the JL's line because that is what I was calling BS not you but whatever. The last 2 loudest cars in the world are Vega's VW rabbit and DEI's van. Not being a *** or anything but with these top dog bank accounts they could buy all the Brahmas they want. And if we find these subs to be so great RF, Pioneer, ect... will build a copy and use it next year. Well I am done with this topic unless you want to talk about JL line.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh where should I start on this one... If you think the Brahma is crap your full of it. It's not that Josh thinks he owns the company but Adire puts out some of the best subs in the world. The company is also ran by a very knowledgeable and friendly man by the name of Dan Wiggins. Also I don't think your going to see a copy of the Brahma. The motor technology is patented. Also I think JL is also a very good company of ran a couple of there products and had no problems at all.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2FAST4U:
<strong>JL sucks for the most bass Go Cerwin Vega Stroker one 12" with a DEI 1100D. in the right bow I have seen these subs break welds on body panels. It has a 4" throw and a metal pin in the center for alignment. I have two competion/show car with top of the line every thing. One car has 2 RockFord Power hx2 (2000each) powered by 4500 watts of amps. And another car with 1 titanium Eclipse powered with 6200 watts. DEI amps rock.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL i just read this post 4inches of throw? That's a new world record lol what the stroker came out 1o years ago? Most of the "big boy" subs are around 2inches peak-to-peak
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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I give up. I put my guns down. I know people are stubborn and thick-headed sometimes but you take the cake man. It's not a right or wrong thing, but the simple fact is you're spouting off a bunch of BS, I would bet you don't work in the design of anything, you didn't even know what the pin was for on the Stroker. LoL I'm just here to try and show people that all this stuff you're saying is false and give a little knowledge while I'm here, like so many have done for me. Don't try to know everything, it's OK to admit that and learn, but it's not cool to act like you know everything when in actuality you don't know very much at all.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Hi I'm new... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2FAST4U:
<strong> Not to blow my own horn but I work on prototype audio that is crazy.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">care to divulge with whom? I can easily make a few phone calls and see if you have a horn to toot.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

This Crazy enough for ya? <img src="http://images.cardomain.com/installs/244000-244999/244609_26_full.jpg" alt=" - " />

Here's my teams prototype SPL woofer.. that's a Digital Designs 9000 series 15" beside it..

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And I have 2 friends that have won trophes in audio to (whoop whooo).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

if this is a measuring stick for here, I've personally won over 70 awards, including 4 State Championships, and a World Championship. The above mentioned team has brought home over 300 trophies in the last 3 seasons. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The last 2 loudest cars in the world are Vega's VW rabbit and DEI's van.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

Nice try.. but no again..

the last 2 loudest vehicles in the world were Mike Huges "Yellow Hell" running Digital Designs 9515s and Crossfire amps, and Jamie Delapez's Mmats Van, running Juggernauts, and Mmats D300hc amps... Mike had a 174.6 certified score, and Jamie had a 174.5 certified... Mike also won the Extreme cup at the 2001 Db drag finals, for the loudest vehicle in the world.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not being a *** or anything but with these top dog bank accounts they could buy all the Brahmas they want. And if we find these subs to be so great RF, Pioneer, ect... will build a copy and use it next year. Well I am done with this topic unless you want to talk about JL line.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You'll see what a Brahma can do starting tomorrow.. there's at least one vehicle at drag finals running them.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> And no.. they won't copy the Brahma when they find out its a very good sub... because of a little thing called a Patent.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Brahmas got a special lil motor.. called Xbl2

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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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LoL, sorry bout that Marshall, I thought he was louder, because you'd think that two Strokers in a wall with crazy power would be louder than a single 15 in a ported box with 1/5th the power, right? I think this simple mistake goes more towards proving my point that the Brahma can hang and beat some of the best out there. 2FAST4U, I'm awaiting a response. I'd really like to see your logic and rebutal here.
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:19 AM
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> i think it speaks for itself loud and clear now...
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Old Nov 2, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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First off seat back and breath you are going to have some real problems with high stress. OK now the sub was ok but there is better that is all. I have seen allot of people hear sh*t and think it is true or go to sites and read some stuff and thing OMG this is the best because well it says right hear. I will give you credit and call my rockford rep. we will look at the tec. info and maybe sit down with Pioneer, Vega, and Rockford. With all the tec. guys and give it a run. Not to blow my own horn but I work on prototype audio that is crazy. And I have 2 friends that have won trophes in audio to (whoop whooo). But the most important thing is relaxe it is not like you own this company or are sponsored by them. These is only a forum no one is getting prizes. It is a little nice to see you so passately about your Brahmas. I am much more interested in hearing what you think of the JL's line because that is what I was calling BS not you but whatever. The last 2 loudest cars in the world are Vega's VW rabbit and DEI's van. Not being a *** or anything but with these top dog bank accounts they could buy all the Brahmas they want. And if we find these subs to be so great RF, Pioneer, ect... will build a copy and use it next year. Well I am done with this topic unless you want to talk about JL line.
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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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UPDATE!

Scottie Johnson (van, 9 brahma 15's, 18vipers) did 170.3 (or .4 in final round)
Put him at #3 in 9+ DB DRAG WORLD FINALS!
Not bad for a bunch of sound quality subs...

I was there Saturday with the RE guys and Team Smoke....

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Old Nov 4, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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All you have to remember is bass is cone area, displacement, and power. If you want to get something that is loud at all costs...then there you go. If you want something that is loud, sounds good, and will last go for something out of the JL W7 series, Image Dynamics MAX, Broham (sp?), or a Stroker if you can find one. There are a boat load of subs out there that go real loud, do they sound good?....well that is up to the listener. Just my .02. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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hahahaahaha I'm sorry but most of the replies in this thread have to be a joke people can't be that stupid. hahaha brahma are shity hahaha that is teh funneh. Next thing you know DD's are crappy too and they are just for looks. Ohh and to the guy that posted the picture of the 9515 next to that other sub if thats true then <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> make sure you send me a few of them
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 02RedWS6TA:
<strong> Ohh and to the guy that posted the picture of the 9515 next to that other sub if thats true then <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> make sure you send me a few of them</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It was sitting beside a 9015.. not the 9515.

and it will be on full display all weekend, at the MECA world finals, outside of Louisville, Ky..

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ALUMAPRO ALCHEMY...i had 2 12"s and you could literally hear me getting off the freeway from my house...they are DAMN CLEAN too, very precise
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By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


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Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


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Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


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Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


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Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


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Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


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10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


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10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


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