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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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I know this is probably a noobish/stupid question, but im gonna ask anyway just to be sure since im pretty new to this stuff. I have an Alpine 9857 with one set of sub preouts. How do I run 2 amps off of that one set of preouts? Is a crosspver needed to do that? There are two more sets of preouts in the back, but I figured they were for higher frequency stuff like running component tweets and midbass, am I correct in thinking that? Thanks in advance.

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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You can buy 2 Y Adaptors Both of them being one female to two male then run another set of rcas to the second amplifier. That is the cheapest way of doing it.
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Is that the right way of doing that though? Wont' the signal get dilluted being split like that?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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The "dilluting" won't be significant. I'll bet you can't even notice it. Just buy a couple y-adapters.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShadiest1_
Is that the right way of doing that though? Wont' the signal get dilluted being split like that?
Voltages of elements in parallel to one another are identical....however due to resistances, etc...there will be about a 2-6% loss in preout voltages -- so as long as you have decent pre-outs -- you will not notice anything. Some amps have outputs though you may also be able to use for RCA signals.

Regarding your pre-outs though -- A head unit that has subwoofer crossover control usually have a low pass option for 1 set of pre-outs (other things too like non-fading), and a high-pass option for the others. These options need not be used. Having multiple pre-outs gives you flexibility to control crossover options at the head unit instead of at the amp - that is basically all.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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what you should do is buy an amp that has a set of input and output RCA jacks on it...then you just run one set to the first amp and then get you a 2 foot jumper to hop to the next amp.....this way its cleaner than the y-adapters...which will work.....just my opinion...im pretty sure that kicker makes amps that can be connected together like that but im sure theres more....hope this helps
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I didn't know that some amps have outputs on them. Thanks everybody for explaining things for me. I'll probably go with the Y-Adapters. I don't know where I would be without this site and members like yall.
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Is this an older model 9857 because the one I just searched has front, rear and sub outputs at 2 volts??? I was looking for the preamp voltage and it came up with that. Most of the Alpines seem to be 2 volt RCA unless you spend a little more money. That's always bugged me about Alpine. The other high end players like Kenwood, Pioneer/ Premier, Panasonic, Eclipse, etc. have at least 4 volt and in some cases 8 volt preamp outputs. Especially if it has front rear and sub outs.
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Mines has two sets of F AND R preout and 1 set of sub preout. They are all 2v, I know alot of people were complaining about that with this deck. What is the differences with the higher voltages? Does sound quality increase with higher voltages?
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Absolutely. The better the preamp voltage, the better the SQ. Gives you a much cleaner signal. The when you amplify it...sounds that much better and gives you more volume to work with as you have less distortion. Obviously this also depends on your other components in the car...speakers, amps, quality of speaker wire, quality of RCA's, but you at least start with a good signal and go from there!
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Originally Posted by TheShadiest1_
Mines has two sets of F AND R preout and 1 set of sub preout. They are all 2v, I know alot of people were complaining about that with this deck. What is the differences with the higher voltages? Does sound quality increase with higher voltages?
I'm confused...If you have 3 sets of preamp outputs what would you need a Y-adapter for?? You said initially that you were running 2 amps. That's more than enough outputs on the back of the 9857 to run them.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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I am not sure if the 9857 is the say way, but my sub output only puts out 20-200hz, it isnt a full range signal.
The Front/Rear outputs are 200hz-20khz, and also fade left to right.

The crossover on the deck is also a low pass filter for the sub out, while the crossovers on the front/rear are high pass filters. It will sound funny with a sub hooked up to the front or rear output.
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Absolutely. The better the preamp voltage, the better the SQ. Gives you a much cleaner signal. The when you amplify it...sounds that much better and gives you more volume to work with as you have less distortion. Obviously this also depends on your other components in the car...speakers, amps, quality of speaker wire, quality of RCA's, but you at least start with a good signal and go from there!
Not exactly...higher voltage is used in automotive audio to overcome the ambient electrical noise of the environment. Other than noise/interference reduction, higher voltage doesn't improve sound quality in any way. In fact, using higher voltage is a trade-off between overcoming electrical interference and introducing distortion from the preamp section by producing that higher voltage. You will find that most quality home systems run around 1.5 volts since they don't have the hostile environment to deal with.
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