Need a large ring terminal for my ground wire
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Need a large ring terminal for my ground wire I was working on amp and the damn f*****g ground wire came out of its f*****g connector again. Anyone know where I can get 4 gauge ring terminals that have extra large rings to go around large bolts? I use the seatbelt bolts near the hatch speakers. What I've been doing is taking a 0 gauge terminal, dremelling part of the ring off to make it open (more like a spade, but it has more spread) and dremelling some of the metal that wraps around the wire to give it room to clamp down on my 4 gauge wire. It's a pain in the ***. Also, what's the cheapest crimping tool for 4 gauge? I don't have a vice - been using a hammer. Another pain in the ***. And I don't wanna spend $30+ on tools I've seen.
I was working on amp and the damn f*****g ground wire came out of its f*****g connector again. Anyone know where I can get 4 gauge ring terminals that have extra large rings to go around large bolts? I use the seatbelt bolts near the hatch speakers. What I've been doing is taking a 0 gauge terminal, dremelling part of the ring off to make it open (more like a spade, but it has more spread) and dremelling some of the metal that wraps around the wire to give it room to clamp down on my 4 gauge wire. It's a pain in the ***. Also, what's the cheapest crimping tool for 4 gauge? I don't have a vice - been using a hammer. Another pain in the ***. And I don't wanna spend $30+ on tools I've seen.
Either pay someone else to do it or buy the crimper tool. A loose ground wire is not a good thing to have moving around in your car, it's just going to turn into a crash course in "how arc welding works".
Welding supply shops, and you'll wonder why you ever spent so much on terminals after that.. 
when I do mine, I use a dulled chisel to stake the center of the wire hole lengthwise, then hammer it down.. Haven't had a single connection come loose in years.
I'd be alot more worried about the 12v+ wire than the ground wire tho..
when I do mine, I use a dulled chisel to stake the center of the wire hole lengthwise, then hammer it down.. Haven't had a single connection come loose in years.
I'd be alot more worried about the 12v+ wire than the ground wire tho..
Welding supply shops, and you'll wonder why you ever spent so much on terminals after that..
when I do mine, I use a dulled chisel to stake the center of the wire hole lengthwise, then hammer it down.. Haven't had a single connection come loose in years.
I'd be alot more worried about the 12v+ wire than the ground wire tho..
when I do mine, I use a dulled chisel to stake the center of the wire hole lengthwise, then hammer it down.. Haven't had a single connection come loose in years.
I'd be alot more worried about the 12v+ wire than the ground wire tho..
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Verdad Gallardo nope i didnt take anything out 
i bent back the plastic panel under the glove box and shoved a screw driver through the firewall, then i fit my arm in by the pcm and somehow taped the wire to the screw driver and then went back in the car and pulled the screw driver through and pulled the wire with it. it took like 3 tries before it came in with it but i didnt have to put anything back together. and im only 18 with skinny arms so i can fit it in by the pcm without taking it out.
i bent back the plastic panel under the glove box and shoved a screw driver through the firewall, then i fit my arm in by the pcm and somehow taped the wire to the screw driver and then went back in the car and pulled the screw driver through and pulled the wire with it. it took like 3 tries before it came in with it but i didnt have to put anything back together. and im only 18 with skinny arms so i can fit it in by the pcm without taking it out. Staging Lane
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nope i didnt take anything out i bent back the plastic panel under the glove box and shoved a screw driver through the firewall, then i fit my arm in by the pcm and somehow taped the wire to the screw driver and then went back in the car and pulled the screw driver through and pulled the wire with it. it took like 3 tries before it came in with it but i didnt have to put anything back together. and im only 18 with skinny arms so i can fit it in by the pcm without taking it out.
i bent back the plastic panel under the glove box and shoved a screw driver through the firewall, then i fit my arm in by the pcm and somehow taped the wire to the screw driver and then went back in the car and pulled the screw driver through and pulled the wire with it. it took like 3 tries before it came in with it but i didnt have to put anything back together. and im only 18 with skinny arms so i can fit it in by the pcm without taking it out. yeah me too why pay someone else to do it? systems are easy as cake to install. just have to have the patience and time to do it. and when u ran your power wire was it a pain to fit under the passenger seat belt bolt thing under the floor panel. im trying to lift up the carpet to fit it in there with that other wire tube thats in there but the rockford 4 gauge wire is so damn thick lol.
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yeah me too why pay someone else to do it? systems are easy as cake to install. just have to have the patience and time to do it. and when u ran your power wire was it a pain to fit under the passenger seat belt bolt thing under the floor panel. im trying to lift up the carpet to fit it in there with that other wire tube thats in there but the rockford 4 gauge wire is so damn thick lol.
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It came out while I was working on crap, and it was off at the time. I just removed the wire for now.
A ground wire would only spark as bad as the current that the component it's attached to is trying to pull.. i.e. you won't get much from a 5w light bulb, but you damn sure would from a starter motor.
A 12v+ wire would arc weld until it melted, carrying as much current as it possibly can.
A 12v+ wire would arc weld until it melted, carrying as much current as it possibly can.
A ground wire would only spark as bad as the current that the component it's attached to is trying to pull.. i.e. you won't get much from a 5w light bulb, but you damn sure would from a starter motor.
A 12v+ wire would arc weld until it melted, carrying as much current as it possibly can.
A 12v+ wire would arc weld until it melted, carrying as much current as it possibly can.
Uh yeah, but the 12v will try and carry 300+ amps instantly, or whatever the wire can support, not the far less an amplifier will typically pull.
THE main difference is that when you touch the ground wire to the car, you're completing a circuit. When you touch the 12v+ wire, that's a dead short. MUCH worse.
THE main difference is that when you touch the ground wire to the car, you're completing a circuit. When you touch the 12v+ wire, that's a dead short. MUCH worse.
i hated finding a good ground point, seems like i would find a good ground point only to have it go to **** 3 months later. Now i just use the negative terminal on the battery for my ground. have had it hooked up like that on my girlfriends zx2 for 3 years on an 800watt amp without any problems