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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 02Z28LS1
and then what do you do when your dad all of a sudden can't see any information from the GPS device? or he finds your GPS blocker?

then you're screwed and will have a hard time EVER getting him to trust you again.

as much as you probably don't want to hear it, you should just drive responsibly for a while and prove to him that you can handle the responsibility....don't jeopardize your driving privilege (and yes, it's a privilege, NOT a right....even for people who own their own cars) and your dad's trust by doing something stupid.

besides, the jammer may not even work in the long run, anyway. i'm not sure of the exact make/model of the device he installed, but some of the ones i've seen have a removable component that can just be plugged into a computer with a USB port, and the data manually downloaded directly to the computer.

Agree 100% here, if I was your dad, figured out you jammed the GPS.... I would say, fine, no car for you...... I would just drive in a consistant and resposible manner and you will regain the trust you lost, or didn't yet have... but remember it only takes one very stupid act to loose the trust all over again
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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don't drive like a tard and maybe your dad will take it off.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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I'd have to agree with what the others here have said already but as long as any of the following three conditions are true it's going to be hard to argue with decisions you're folks make.

1. If they own the car.
2. If they pay for the car Insurance.
3. If you're living at home.

While your folks are paying the bills it's not worth starting a fight with them about the GPS installed in the car. Drive safely then once you're out from under thier wing so to speak do what you want...

Take it easy
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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We've all learned this lesson at one time or another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCr8...eature=related

These cars take a good bit of practice to drive and get fully in control of - so speeding is not such a good thing until one has had a good bit of experience with similarly-powered cars.

Dad knows that while F-Bodies are one of the safest cars of their time,,, (scoring nearly as high as possible in crash tests) the high performance helped them to become one of the most deadly cars with regard to fatalities: http://www.informedforlife.org/demos...1999to2002.pdf (See #192 and 197 on the list.) Obviously, the Firebirds are more dangerous because we get more looks from the honeys, compared to the Camaro.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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no silly, its cause the firebird is faster by like 200 in your seat hp from factory
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Old May 17, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Why do you want to block/turn off the GPS untit? What ever reason that is - it's the reason it got there in the first place.

If there is a GPS unti in the car beacuse of you, you should not be driving.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
Why do you want to block/turn off the GPS untit? What ever reason that is - it's the reason it got there in the first place.

If there is a GPS unti in the car beacuse of you, you should not be driving.
Says the guy with a pic of his speedo near pinned in his sig... lol

I have to agree though, my general position is that if you're not old enough to vote, buy a gun, or buy cigarrettes, you're not old enough to drive a high powered car such as an f-body. Honestly I think this GPS idea is great, because it can allow those lucky few whose parents would actually purchase them a nice car, and at that, the car they want, while still maintaining safety.

The very fact that you want to take it out shows that you aren't mature enough on your own to handle the responsibility. Just take it slow, enjoy the car, and for god's sake, don't tell your friends about that tracking piece, just play it off like you're a responsible driver. Plus, you can always enjoy spirited sprints from 0-speed limit.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 11:32 PM
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no offense to youngta...but how old are you? Seriously...like posted already...your dad put the system in there for a reason, and your posting here confirms his suspicion. If he paid for the car or is paying for the insurance and if you still live under his roof...then follow his rules. I got my T/A when I was 17 and even though I hated listening to my dad, I knew if I messed up he would take it away. Now that I pay for everything, its alittle different. Just be good, leave the thing in there and remove it when the car is yours...
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Old May 19, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DRSITES
Says the guy with a pic of his speedo near pinned in his sig... lol

Photoshop - check my volt gauge it should be higher than that at 4,500rpm mstake i made.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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Yup. I know I showed you some of the GPS blockers, but your best bet is what everyone has been saying; be responsible and earn the system being removed. If you use a blocker, he's obviously going to be able to tell. Then he'll get concerned, next thing you know your car is being ripped apart by a stereo & electronics place to see why the unit isnt working.. you don't want that. I'm 16 and am paying for half of my WS6.. I know that if I mess up in it, it's getting taken away in a heartbeat. As long as they pay the bills, their in control..
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Old May 19, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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It shows how fast you went but does it show how fast you accelerated? Try the thing out. Go on the freeway and top your car out and go home and if he says anything tell him its broke.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by italicizedsponge
It shows how fast you went but does it show how fast you accelerated? Try the thing out. Go on the freeway and top your car out and go home and if he says anything tell him its broke.
i'd be willing to bet it's one of the SafeForce boxes in this news article.

Teenagers may hate it., because the black box -- called SafeForce -- allows parents to monitor five areas of concern:

* Seat belt use
* Speed
* Cornering
* Braking
* Revving the engine

The device gives off a series of increasingly loud alerts when a driver makes what it perceives to be an error.

Back at home, parents can download the information.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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What happens if you just kill the power supply that goes to the box?
Sounds like a bomb, if you tamper with it i will go off but if it has no power how can it go off (or in this case send the info that it was tampered with)
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Old May 19, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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But if you cut the power to it we go back to the issue or it not sending any info at all and dad finding out what happened. Just be responsible. Driving an f-body can still be lots of fun without speeding all the time.

It's actually kind of a good idea to have that box. I know when I was younger, I put my Jeep in a ditch by f-ing around on the ice and snow. Not that I'm old now at 25, but I think I'm a hell of a lot more responsible than I was at 16. A car like that has the potential to do a lot of damage to you and others if you aren't responsible. Just last week someone I work with lost their son to a car accident because he and his friend (both about 16 or so) were flying down a 30mph road going 70 or 80 to hit some humps in the road and get air. Lost control, hit a tree. The end.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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I think he just checks it from the computer but i no that the gps blocker is removeable so as long as i dnt mess that up...
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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Dunno if the antenna size is the same but the local PD took tuna cans and painted them white to match and it works for them....they just radio in that it is having a malfunction lol. Good luck dude
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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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dude **** that, sad your dad cant trust you. My parents would never invade my space like that! You should just rip the thing out and put it on his bed and than run away from home that would be funny

Originally Posted by ls1kraut
there's a time and a place to go fast, sounds like you'd better learn that lesson first before you get into more trouble then just with your dad. I say leave the box in until you can prove your responsibility to him, then don't abuse the freedom once you have it again.
but on a serious note i would have to agree with kraut, just be responsible and show that you are mature enough to have the car. Atleast he told you/made visible that he put the thing in there
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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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he probably got caught speeding or driving like a moron one day and the dad put a gps in there to keep an eye on him.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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If you didnt pay for the car then I say deal with it man. You can still race it up to the speed limit.....then get dusted by a honda. I can see the excuse now..." My dad wont let me go over 55mph", ...ROFL
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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