rel3rd

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On datalogs, my car shows a "flash" to about 4200 rpm's, but it also shows a dead, or flat spot, in acceleration at that same area.

My 3755# race weight 2000 Camaro 60 foots regularly in the high 1.5's (best of 1.57), but considering that it runs 11.60's, I think it should 60 foot slightly quicker. There is ZERO wheel spin. The car HOOKS, then just seems to nose over (according to datalogs) and videos, just past the 60 foot markers.

A brand new Yank SS4000 is $725 w/free shipping til tomorrow.
And a PT4000 is on sale for same price, I believe.

I'm just wondering if I should have the PI Vigilante re-stalled, and hope for the best...or sell the Vig and buy a new Yank. Both seem to be nice converters, but I want to run a little quicker without any engine mods.

My car is VERY streetable as is, and that's one thing I am concerned about, as far as higher stall speeds.

Here's my best run, made a week ago (1.57 60'):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adh4BnfBMBg

Another problem is that if the consensus is to sell the Vig, I have no idea what they are worth...so a little help on that is also appreciated.

Thanks.

GregWS6&z28

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vote for a yank and sell the vig. use the money towards something new.

what are your future goals? if you are staying NA I'd go with the PT series, for some spray I'd go SS series. I love my SS4000 but off the spray I'd want it to be 4200-4400

rel3rd

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Well, I'd have to say I am staying NA. I've had two different nitrous kits on (& off) the car, and never sprayed it yet, LOL.

I'm hoping to hear from someone who's made the switch. I know the Vigs seem to be "loose" and I don't really want anymore looseness on the street than what I already have. Hopefully, the Yank would cure that issue while still kicking butt at the 60 foot timer.

I guess the SS4000 is a little "tighter" on the street?

GregWS6&z28

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yea, i would say the SS series feels tighter on the street. I've got a buddy with the PT series and it definitely seems looser for being the same stall speed. I went from a Yank ST3800 to SS4000 and the 4000 felt tighter too. The SS series is a good all around converter for NA and juice so that was why I went that route.

GT Griller

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That would be pointless in his case.....his vig flashes 4200 and thats where his "dead spot" is.....if u have a free restall then restall it, why not take advantage of it?

silverz28camaro

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Re-stall if for free, and see if there is any better results, if not, then you can sell this "new re-stall" as a slightly used unit, with on x amount of passes

BOLO

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I'm in the same boat as you are. Have a Vig 3600, and thinking of restall to 4000 or, buy a Yank ss4000 or looking into Circle D 4000 stall.

Z-RATED94

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This is the route I would take. When moving to a different brand it's hard to judge the right stall rating to go with.

99Hawk262

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SS4000 is definitely tighter on the street than the PT series, but doesn't have the topend of the PT. I swapped from the SS4000 to the PT4400 because I was staying NA as well, and that was the best move I've ever made with my car. If you decide to go with a Yank, the PT series are awesome in every way. Hard to pass up a free re-stall though.

rel3rd

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Just to clarify...and sorry for any confusion...

I have NO FREE RE-STALL.
I have no copy of the original invoice since I bought it slightly used 17 months ago myself.

In fact, I just got the email back from Precision Industries that quoted $225 + $26.65 for shipping it back to me. So, figure $275 or so total for me to ship it to them, get re-stalled and shipped back. I've seen Vigilante converters go for anywhere from $350-$500 used, which puts me right about the same out of pocket as a new Yank.

I just realized something else.
My buddy has a lift in his garage where we'd do the swap, but leaving the car there on the lift while PI does any type of re-stall probably can't happen anyway, since he does quite a bit of work (for several others) that also needs a lift.

I guess I just to need to decide what Yank to buy at this point...

rel3rd

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Now, after looking at your sig again, I'm back to being confused...

I see you have very similar mods and we run basically the exact same ET/MPH and 60 foots.

Was your best run made with true duals? or with the SLP dual/dual?

I still run the dual/dual muffler, but had the cutout open...even though it made no difference.

I guess I'd need a PT5000, lol...

TA1364

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If you are looking for more performance go big or go home. pt4000-4400. I have the ss4000 and I want more.

GMMillwright

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I'd restall the Vig. I had a PT4000 and it was awesome off the bottle, though. PT series is probably the best NA converter out there, IMO. Mine just couldn't handle the spray. I blew right through it (175 shot).

Z-RATED94

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That's what I'm worried about. The OP might not choose a big enough Yank to make a difference compared to the Vig. Case in point, My SS3600 barely improved my 60ft. times compared to the 2800 Vig I had before. Don't take this the wrong way, the Yank is a great converter, I just should have went bigger.

99Hawk262

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Times in sig were through SLP Dual/Dual with cutout open, no front sway bar, full weight, stock Bilstein suspension, 3.23's and 255/50/16 Hoosier DR's (18 psi). Each run that night was better than the last and I truly believe I had an 11.5x in it, but unfortunately I ran out of time. Seeing as how similar our setups are, I think you'd really like the PT4400. I love this converter because it works so well with my current setup, and leaves me plenty of room to grow.