Roll Racing
08-23-2008, 11:51 PM
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Roll Racing When racing a M6 in a stalled auto from a roll, in my mind it would be most beneficial to us if we raced at a low MPH (like 5 or 10), with some decent tire, and went on the second honk. You think that would give us an advantage over the 6 speed guys through 3rd gear? So that would be like 125-135 depending on the amount the stall slips...
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08-25-2008, 12:56 AM
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My topend is awesome....that's by far my favorite feature of the PT4400. I had a SS4000 before this, and it was okay on topend, but left a lot to be desired. Not so with the PT series. Yank told me this was the converter to go with if I wanted the best all around NA performance: hits hard from a dig, decently tight for daily driving, and insane from a roll. Of the three converters I've had, I'd say they nailed it with the PT series. They recommended the PT4000, but I always said if I did the PT series, it'd be the 4400.....I'll never look back.
As far as spray, not good with the PT4400, it's too loose and will blow right through. I've heard of some doing it with the PT4000 with some success, but I've heard the PT3800 is the one to use if you want PT performance and want to spray as well.
As far as spray, not good with the PT4400, it's too loose and will blow right through. I've heard of some doing it with the PT4000 with some success, but I've heard the PT3800 is the one to use if you want PT performance and want to spray as well.
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08-25-2008, 01:50 PM
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Please enlighten us about this. I can understand with an extremely loose race converter...but theres no way a stockish, hell even a heads cam full weight car with a common 4l60e/verted car will hold any kinda 'brake stall' over about 2200 rpm.
OP - I'd just make sure you're in the optimum gear (highest gear possible PRIOR to the race), OR hit it on the 2nd honk because you'll have to wait for the downshift. Higher stall speed converters obviously work best above their advertised stall speed - they're gonna be slipping til above where they flash obviously (sometimes even higher).
Reminds me of when I raced an '03 cobra with my old '99 a couple years ago. This car had a TCI 4400 converter mind you... We hit it from a 60 roll, I was in the middle of 3rd gear, should have been in 2nd. Had I been in 2nd I wouldve stayed with him due to the top of the powerband. Since I was in 3rd and he was in 2nd (6 speed) I had to play chase, and he got out of it due to traffic when I was catching him...so in his mind I'm sure he thought he won.
OP - I'd just make sure you're in the optimum gear (highest gear possible PRIOR to the race), OR hit it on the 2nd honk because you'll have to wait for the downshift. Higher stall speed converters obviously work best above their advertised stall speed - they're gonna be slipping til above where they flash obviously (sometimes even higher).
Reminds me of when I raced an '03 cobra with my old '99 a couple years ago. This car had a TCI 4400 converter mind you... We hit it from a 60 roll, I was in the middle of 3rd gear, should have been in 2nd. Had I been in 2nd I wouldve stayed with him due to the top of the powerband. Since I was in 3rd and he was in 2nd (6 speed) I had to play chase, and he got out of it due to traffic when I was catching him...so in his mind I'm sure he thought he won.
08-25-2008, 02:25 PM
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Its simple say your doing mostly 40 rolls, drive your car in second gear and see the rpm. Now floor it and see the lag, log it with HPT if you can. Now drag the **** out of the brakes and hold the same mph. you will see alot higher rpm/TPS EVEN in a stock stall. Obviously the bigger the stall the bigger the difference. This is a VERY commin technique with the guys that have turbo's they brake boost to spool the turbo's up.
As far as enlightening Photochop, I dont think im up to that job. Given your kill story your not in the same zip code as a decent street racer and I dont feel the need to school a smart ***.
As far as enlightening Photochop, I dont think im up to that job. Given your kill story your not in the same zip code as a decent street racer and I dont feel the need to school a smart ***.
08-25-2008, 08:07 PM
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When racing a M6 in a stalled auto from a roll, in my mind it would be most beneficial to us if we raced at a low MPH (like 5 or 10), with some decent tire, and went on the second honk. You think that would give us an advantage over the 6 speed guys through 3rd gear? So that would be like 125-135 depending on the amount the stall slips...
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08-28-2008, 01:27 AM
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Because 9 times out of 10 it isn't safe enough to stop and run from a dig. Take what you can get and most of the time roll racing is the easiest way.
I prefer dig runs since you have to be a good driver to run your car to it's true potential but sometimes it isn't possible
I prefer dig runs since you have to be a good driver to run your car to it's true potential but sometimes it isn't possible
08-28-2008, 01:33 PM
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Because 9 times out of 10 it isn't safe enough to stop and run from a dig. Take what you can get and most of the time roll racing is the easiest way.
I prefer dig runs since you have to be a good driver to run your car to it's true potential but sometimes it isn't possible
I prefer dig runs since you have to be a good driver to run your car to it's true potential but sometimes it isn't possible
Never heard of roll racing being safer..
...but thats just me