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Old 07-25-2010, 10:20 AM
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Question thinking about supercharging my V

Hey guys, im new to this site so hopefully you can help me out. i have an 05 cts v which im thinking about supercharging. I have a friend who has an '09 cts v and is going to be upgrading his stock supercharger to something a little more beefy. So he will be giving me his stock unit. I'm wondering if this will be able to bolt right up or if i will run into issues where i may need to buy some adapter plates, or fittings, or if it is impossible.. The '09 V has a 6.2L LSA motor in it with an Eaton TVS 1.9L suupercharger, my engine is a bone stock 5.7L LS6. I realize i may need bigger fuel injectors a new intake and other things needed to support the added air and fuel but im just wondering if this is even a realistic swap. I haven't seen anything on the web about this so hopefully someone here has heard something or tried it.
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I can't be of too much help, but if the supercharger utilizes a special intake manifold/heat exchanger special to that supercharger, I believe it has square port heads vs. your LS6 cathedral port heads. You would possibly need that entire top end, and I don't think that would work with your 3.898 bore. The compression ratio on those engines are 9.1:1 vs your IIRC, 10.4-10.5:1
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Originally Posted by 1SLwLS1
I can't be of too much help, but if the supercharger utilizes a special intake manifold/heat exchanger special to that supercharger, I believe it has square port heads vs. your LS6 cathedral port heads. You would possibly need that entire top end, and I don't think that would work with your 3.898 bore. The compression ratio on those engines are 9.1:1 vs your IIRC, 10.4-10.5:1
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No, the supercharger is NOT your intake. The SC bolts to a lower intake.

You'd have to see if that SC bolts up to an aftermarket lower (check some SC kit websites) for the cathedral ports.
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i knew about the lower intake but i also meant a new cold air intake, MAF sensor and throttle body.
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The biggest problem, as stated above, is going to be fitment of the square-port supercharger assembly on the 5.7L cathedral-port heads. That's a tricky one. Two vendors that I know of (RLD performance and Mast Motorsports) can sell you a set of "small-bore" L92-style square-port heads... but they're big bucks ($2,500-$3,600).

I wish there was an easier alternative... the best idea I have is to buy a set of L92 heads and swap in new intake valve seats and smaller intake valves from an LS1. I don't know if that would actually work, but I wish someone would try it already so we could know for sure!
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LSA blower fits only rectangle port heads which in turn only fit 4.00+ bore blocks. Don't think you're gonna pull this one off, maybe if you picked up a cheap LQ9 or LQ4 and threw some L92 heads on it, but I don't think you're looking at building a new motor.
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GOOD NEWS! My buddy will be replacing his entire top end, so i will have access to his stock heads. I'm wondering if his heads will bolt onto my block? If you say the LSA heads only fit on +4.00" bores, could i just bore my motor to the closest i could get? also as long as that works what would be a good choice of a cam to make some serious power that i could still drive to work and the grocery store with?
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To go that big on the bore you'll need to sleeve the LS6 block you have. Not sure if you can punch an LS2 out that far without sleeves either.
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In any event, I would still take everything our buddy is willing to give you. That would be a nice chunk of change and you could build something nice with the money or you can throw a little money in on top of what he gives you to build something the heads and blower will work with.
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just get a maggie or whipple and save the headache...
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That is a pretty stout top end. I would definitely hang on to it. You cannot bore your block to what is needed, it would have to be re-sleeved. You could build a budget iron block or some other aluminum LS block for the time being and once you get the shortblock built, you could throw this top end on it and have a killer setup.
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Originally Posted by punishmentcycle
just get a maggie or whipple and save the headache...
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Originally Posted by willsol
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depends on how much he is getting the entire top end for. IF he is getting it for next to nothing, he could build a stout bottom end for the cost of those blowers/kits, and slap on the top end and outperform them.
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You could always sell it and apply that money to an Procharger etc.

That unit doesn't fit the LS7, does it?
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Just ran across this. Not real news since this guy has an LS6. But if you got a set of those mast motorsports heads...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-s...staxi-com.html




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