Truck to F-Body Water pump Conversion ?
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Truck to F-Body Water pump Conversion ?
Getting ready to do my 5.3 swap and I'll be running the truck Alternator/ PS pulley system with a Kwik Perf A/C Bracket, but would prefer to use a Vette/F-body pump instead of the truck waterpump. I've heard of people pulling the truck pulley and installing it on the F-body pump, but couldn't you just pull the F-body pulley forward 3/4" to get the waterpump pulley to like up. Or is there not enough Shaft on the pump to do this. I have the Truck pump already, but not the F-Body one yet. I snagged this pic from another post to show the difference.
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Another option is the 5th generation Camaro L99 waterpump which already has the appropriate spacing and has a driver's side forward outlet.
There is info on this in my thread here beginning around post @28.
frojoe has used essentially the same pump with his truck alternator/ps bracket with minor modification to the bracket.
There is info on this in my thread here beginning around post @28.
frojoe has used essentially the same pump with his truck alternator/ps bracket with minor modification to the bracket.
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did a fbody wp swap on a 5.3 in a s10 over the weekend and it straight forward just use 3/4 spacers and everything lines up i think he bought them on ebay for like 75 bucks shipped ...seems to be the wat to go imo....i can take some pics of it later if u like..and also the way our belt is routed we had to use an fbody tensioner.
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I was hoping to avoid the spacers if possible, but if I ever had to service the pump later spacers would be the easiest way to go, I'd like to see some pics when you get ours done.The L99 might be worth looking into. Pulling the F-body pulley looks pretty tight, but I may be able to make a fixture to pull it forward 3/4"
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I just checked. I can get the 2010 Camaro W/P through my work for $110.00 That may be the ticket. I'm planning on using the KWIK Perf A/C bracket so that will change my belt routing, but it looks like the Idler may get in the way. Well There's always something.
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The tensioner mounting on the L99 pump is further out than the older trucks & older cars, so keep this in mind. I had to get an L99 tensioner for mine to work. The Kwik setup probably uses these mounting points, so it will likely require changes to their spacers or brackets - I really don't know. Just warning you to do some research. I have some of this info in my thread.
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The tensioner mounting on the L99 pump is further out than the older trucks & older cars, so keep this in mind. I had to get an L99 tensioner for mine to work. The Kwik setup probably uses these mounting points, so it will likely require changes to their spacers or brackets - I really don't know. Just warning you to do some research. I have some of this info in my thread.
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Bandit is correct about the Kwik bracket. It will not work with the L99 pump or car pump with spacers. Not without modifying the Kwik spacers anyway.
The L92 truck pump will work with the Kwik bracket and will clear a cable TB or an 07+ DBW truck TB, but NOT earlier truck DBW TBs.
My 5.3 with a pulley swap and Kwik AC bracket going into a 72 442.
The L92 truck pump will work with the Kwik bracket and will clear a cable TB or an 07+ DBW truck TB, but NOT earlier truck DBW TBs.
My 5.3 with a pulley swap and Kwik AC bracket going into a 72 442.
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One additional option is to use the idler relocation bracket, like from Dirty Dingo, etc.
Check out their site.
http://dirtydingo.com/store/product_...=1089&CDpath=1
I have a LQ4 that Im putting LS3 heads and a FAST 102 on. So Im going to try the 3/4" water pump spacers with using a gen 4 F car pump, and this relocator and see how it works.
Its still the dead of winter here, so hopefully soon Ill get to this.
:fingers crossed:
Check out their site.
http://dirtydingo.com/store/product_...=1089&CDpath=1
I have a LQ4 that Im putting LS3 heads and a FAST 102 on. So Im going to try the 3/4" water pump spacers with using a gen 4 F car pump, and this relocator and see how it works.
Its still the dead of winter here, so hopefully soon Ill get to this.
:fingers crossed:
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I'll be running a carb so TB clearance won't be an issue. Gary68 set up is exactly what I'm going for. Which appears to be a Truck WP pulley on an F-Body Pump. Which brings us back to the original question. It looks like swapping the pulley is the way. Gary 68 how tuff was it to do. Did you cut the F-body Pulley off?
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I ordered the Kwik alt/ps bracket for my LQ4 6.0. I intend to use either an LS6 or a BBK intake manifold, keeping my DBW TB. I was eventually going to use their A/C bracket as well. What issues am I going to have? I've searched but haven't gotten a firm answer as to what interference I'm going to have.
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Here's another alternative, though expensive, Similar to Edelbrocks pump.
$255 plus shipp. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
$255 plus shipp. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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I hacked off the truck idler bracket to clear the LS1 intake. I relocated the idler to the lower bolt hole to get a little more belt wrap. All it takes is a longer bolt and spacer.
To remove a car pulley, I had to cut slots for a 3 jaw puller AND cut the pulley to get it off the shaft.
To remove a car pulley, I had to cut slots for a 3 jaw puller AND cut the pulley to get it off the shaft.