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Old 04-16-2008, 03:05 PM
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Im posting this for a friend. He is using the Edelbrock Victor Jr carb setup on his '82 S10 project (Link here:https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-swaps/821154-pics-my-friend-s-82-ls10.html ). The ignition/controller box comes with some different 'chips' to change the timing curve, but they dont allow for very much adjustment. I have noticed that there is some sort of service port on the box, like maybe for a serial/USB cable to hook up a laptop and make more pinpoint adjustments. Is anyone on here using this setup and cant tell me if you have messed with one?
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you can not program the edelbrock boxes, yes there is a serial data port on the side but it does nothing,, you are stuck running 36* timing wot with any of the edelbrock chips

most people start with the edelbrock box and get there project running then realize they cant control the timing(the edelbrock chips all have 36* timing wot,, and most lsx engines only need/like 26-29*) and switch to the msd 6010 box that you can program your own timing curve and has a nitrous retard and hi and low rev limiters and vaccum advance programmable

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i bought the vic jr intake and the msd box, based on what others said-i am just running a chip now, but soon will use the laptob for timing and boost retard selection (if i can figure it out)
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Just to clarify and maybe help you. The msd box with the eldelbrock setup is different from the msd6010 box. Yes they are the same in appearance but the msd 6010 has alot more capabilities like described in an earlier post.
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MSD box

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

MSD software

http://www.msdignition.com/1softdownload.htm

MSD tech forum thread with lots of tuning info

http://www.msdignition.com/forum/sho...?t=5909&page=2



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Speaking of the timing pills, does anyone know what the different pills actually have for curves? I saw a chart one time but cant seem to find it.
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msd do a download for the 6010 box which shows all the stock pills timing points, not a lot to choose between them all tbh.
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Does the 6010 box come with the harness to plug in the coils,map,cam, and crank sensors? I seen a harness that was 184 bux extra just wondering if it came with the harness or is it seperate?
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Originally Posted by COPRHED
Does the 6010 box come with the harness to plug in the coils,map,cam, and crank sensors? I seen a harness that was 184 bux extra just wondering if it came with the harness or is it seperate?
Yes, it comes with a harness. It connects everything and gives enough wire to mount the box on the fender or inside the cabin somewhere.

I think the other harness allows you to mount the box right on the intake manifold.
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the edelbrock and msd pills are the same. msd makes the edelbrock box.
here is a chart i received strait from msd. i run a #6 pill. most agressive timing.
if you want lowering timing, use the #1. it has 32 total timing according to msd.

i tried playing with an msd 7550 handheld and lowering timing didnt pick up any power or track times.
yes ls1's like lower timing, but thats because of the TB and intake setup, not to mention the fuel is sprayed into the port.
with a carb the fuel is drawn in, so the old school timing is still acceptable, IMO.
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I believe the Edelbrock and MSD boxes have different timing curves. They are also made to different specs, according to MSD

http://www.msdignition.com/forum/sho...ight=edelbrock
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I just got the chart i was originally looking for...here it is.
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good info... i need the MSD box... going to put on my kit this summer.

currently running the #4 chip in my car.

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Originally Posted by holley505
good info... i need the MSD box... going to put on my kit this summer.

currently running the #4 chip in my car.

best motor swap for that old *** car!
msd all the way sorry you had to find out the hard way.
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