CaMaRo67RS355

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have a street strip 02 SS i still drive it alot around town it isnt a trailor queen. im just trying to squeeze everything out of her. i dont really want to delete the HVAC although its crossed my mind but how much weight would i lose deleting the power steering?

guys with manual steering how harder is the steering compared to power? i know on skinnies it wouldnt be that bad but on regular 10" wide tires i imagine itd be quite different. opinions please.

thanks

tektrans

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Forget it on anything but skinnies.

CaMaRo67RS355

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big PITA?

SmurfLSX

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100% agree. I couldn't imagine it on the street even with skinnies lol

InsaneAuto86

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YUP! I have no p/s on 17x9 and it sucks. Makes the car feel like a million pounds. I am 100% putting p/s back on when the LSx goes in.

CaMaRo67RS355

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how much what can be lost with changing from power to manual?

davidws6

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I did the no PS for a while and I agree = Armstrong steering.

I then went to a Spohn manual rack and it's much better. Bolted right in no problems.

Though the weight savings ? Don't know if that's accurate or not. But on the plus side, no PS Pump drag on the engine Acc. belt !

fbodygod

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i drove with no power steering in my 99 trans am its not to bad at all when your driving but parking you def have to muscle it!!!!!

03 BUSA

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What difference does an aftermarket rack have over just turning his current one into non p/s?? I would assume manual steering is manual steering. No?? I thought about it on my setup but I am just not ready for a manual rack setup.

5.3LJimmy

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A manual rack is geared differently and has more turns lock to lock. It is much different than simply disconnecting the power steering pump and muscling with the stock rack. You can modify the stock unit by pulling the check ball out of the valve assembly and grinding a slot in it. This will allow the fluid to transfer through instead of building pressure as you turn the wheel. It's a little better, but still not as good as a manual rack.

OP if you want to see what no power steering is like: get in your car, turn the key to the unlock position, and turn the wheel. If you pull the pump off that's how the car will steer. For the weight of the rack and PS pump go to the weight reduction sticky at the top of the page it should be listed there.

fastfox

i have a 97 ss no power steering with skinnes not bad.lil hard in parking lots but thats it.

nemss1

parking is a lil hard. moving isnt bad at all. feels like a big go cart. manual steering racks are geared different to make steering easier than running no PS and the stock rack

the wheel has more turns lock to lock with a manual rack? i figured it would be less turns

5.3LJimmy

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It is just like swapping from 2.73's to 4.11's. The 4.11's make it easier for the driveshaft to turn the rear wheels, but the shaft has to turn more revolutions to spin the tire a full rev. In this analogy the driveshaft = the steering shaft.

nemss1

ok, i get it now. i just didnt put thought into it

InsaneDomestics

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Have you thought about an Electric Power Steering Pump ???

tee-boy

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deleting the ps pump will only save 6-7 lbs. The extra hp freed up is pobably not measurable on a dyno. However, it does free up lots of space under the hood.

And who wants those leaky pressure lines anyways... Changing out o-rings gets old.

nemss1

amen brotha

5.3LJimmy

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How much does one of those weigh? Seeing as the point of pulling the pump is to save weight, it would be silly to put more of it back in.

rudyzturbota

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well my setup is a electric power steering pump i got off of ebay. you just hook up the two wires to a switch an the pump turns on an work with know problems. i had to make some customs ps lines. i put it under the fuzes on the driver side up front of the car. and it looks almost factory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvqNKTVh5L8
this is the pump i got off of ebay

rudyzturbota

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it weights less then the stock unit