PREDATOR-Z

Hello everyone,

I race in a "Street" division here at our only track.
To make the story short, it is a open 10.99 time capped division
Cannot break 10.99

One of the rules is that AUTO cars are NOT allowed to used transbrakes.
However manuals take 5K+ clutch dumps.

My argument is that it is not fair.

Now is there any "street style" divisions in US that allow transbrakes in the time frame I mentionned, and where can I find some net literature to present it as evidence for my argument.

Thanks,
Mark

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

Why do you feel that you need a trans brake? Most street classes over here are foot brake only.

Coach 02 A3 Z/28

iTrader: (10)

I race footbrake and don't care if a stick car dumps the clutch at 5k to 7k. Most of the time I will beat a stick car bracket racin. They will miss a gear or run inconsistent.

Coach

cwaldt

iTrader: (4)

Sometimes it not about winning or losing but the principle of it.

BigSteele

iTrader: (17)

manuals take 5k clutch dumps... because thats how they are on the street. you can do that when you buy a car new, if that makes sense.

I would think that a stalled auto setup could run a lot better at the track than a manual, even without a transbrake.

and I have no idea about the info you were asking for, lol

PREDATOR-Z

My personal problem is that during staging, sometimes I do not have the time to properly brake stall and the manuals are having an easier time.
Not to mention a trans brake would reduce my time by .05 on the sixty, which would translate in 1.4x instead of 1.5x
We all know where most of the races are won (hint 60')

Any edge is important to me since I race against Turbo/nitrous 2700 lbs Skylines with my heavy 3500 lbs.
Those guys have tremendeous power at 1/8th mile, so the better I get them off the line, the harder it is for them to catch up.

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

If two cars are identical except for the transmission the automatic should out sixty foot the manual. I would suggest that you need to experiment with different torque converters until you find what works best. Staging should not be an issue. Bring the revs up close to launch rpm while you are pre-staged. Practice makes perfect!

Good Luck,

Daren

PREDATOR-Z

Been racing since the 80's, still practicing
I do outrun them in the 60' but by the 1/8th they spool up some serious power and do catch up. The more distance I put between myself and them, the harder it is for them to catch up.

Villain281H

iTrader: (5)

I think maybe 1 or 2 NHRA divisions allow transbrakes in their doorcar class or no-box class.
Division 2 does not allow transbrakes or two-steps in their Pro or Sportsman classes. Super Pro (11.99 and quicker in the 1/4) allows full electronics.

IMHO, having a 5 grand clutch dump isn't an advantage over my automatic off the footbrake, you still have to move your left foot to get the car to move. Hand-to-eye coordination is better than hand-to-foot, and I think someone trying to bracket race a clutch car usually has a harder time than an auto (consistent clutch and shift work) as Coach mentioned.

Just spank their *** off the footbrake. I stall mine up after pre-staging before ever bumping into the stage beam.

Good luck!

Derek

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

Do you race on a handicap or heads-up on a 10.99 index?

PREDATOR-Z

Heads up
My best dialed in run was 11.024 and I won the division that day.
See the problem is we do not have a lot of cars here. So they capped the Street division at 10.99 so cars of various weight and makes can still race against each other.
Immagine putting my 3550 car against a 2800.

Things are changing for this year though:

Super Street is 8 cylinder division, 1 power adder, no weight limit and open time. How the f88k am I supposed to compete in that?
Factory block, internal and boltons allowed, No back 1/2, no transbrake.

GIZMO

iTrader: (8)

If both cars are running off the same index what does it matter? You might want to look into buying a really good converter and doing some suspension work. If you can run the number reaction time is the key to winning. The small number of cars should work in your favor.