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Old 04-29-2012, 01:20 PM
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Default Top 10 RWHP Per Cubic Inch NA?

I don't see a good comparison in these threads. A bunch of randomness.

Lets break it down to groupings of cubic inch for comparison, but the list will ultimately be rated at HP/Cu.Inch so all sizes will be judged evenly. (well, as evenly as it's going to get anyway) You must post a dyno and specs. (not necessary to give secrets) but stuff that actually informs us what truly worked. So as much information as you can. Hopefully everyone can compete and learn at the same time. Auto and Manual will be rated in separate categories. I threw in some crazy set ups that I did a large search for in here to give examples that are / have been in this forum somewhere. NO BOOST ALLOWED. They can have a thread like this if they want, but the numbers get pretty silly.


TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated - Manual trans.;

#1.) Patrick G - 1.46hp / Cu.In

2. Ron@Vengeance - 1.45hp / Cu.In.
3. Tony Mamo @ afr - 1.43hp / Cu.In.
4. 98blueSScamaro - 1.42hp / Cu.In.
5. LS1 Joe - 1.29hp / Cu.In.
6. camarokid94 - 1.25hp / Cu.In
7. WKMCD - 1.20hp / Cu.In.
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9.
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TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated Auto Trans ;
NOTE* these will show a little lower than manual due to further Drive train loss

#1.) DMMizell - 1.72hp / Cu.In. - Glide

2. Chris1313 - 1.50hp / Cu.In
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Top 10 MOST ENGINE HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated
NOTE* These will show higher hp/Cu.in. due to lack of parasitic loss in drive train.

#1.) LPE 403 460 cu.in. 805hp = 1.75 hp/cu.in.

2. Tireburnin........ - 416 cu.in. @ 714 hp = 1.72hp / Cu.In
3. Tony Mamo @ afr 454 cu.in. 731hp = 1.61 hp/cu.in.
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347 Cu.In. and less

Patrick G .....Manual - 347ci @ 508 rwhp = 1.46hp / Cu.In.
Ron @ vengeance.....Manual - 346ci @ 503 rwhp = 1.45hp / Cu.In.
Chris1313.....Auto - 346ci @ 520 rwhp = 1.50hp / Cu.In......Post #6
DMMizell.....Auto - 346ci @ 594 rwhp = 1.72hp / Cu.In......Post #7
98blueSScamaro.....Manual - 346ci @ 491 rwhp = 1.42hp / Cu.In......Post #3

348- 383 Cu.In.

Tony Mamo @ afr.....Manual - 383 @ 547 rwhp = 1.43hp / Cu.In......Post #11

384-427 Cu.In.

LS1 Joe.....Manual - 403 cu.in. @ 518 rwhp = 1.29hp / Cu.In.
WKMCD.....Manual - 402 cu.in. @ 482 rwhp = 1.20hp / Cu.In......Post #12
Tireburnin.....ENGINE - 416 cu.in. @ 714 hp = 1.72hp / Cu.In.......Post #26 - E85
camarokid94..Manual - 402 cu.in. @ 502 rwhp = 1.25hp / Cu.In......Post #45

427 Cu. In. and Larger
LPE 403.....engine only 460 cu.in. 805hp = 1.75 hp/cu.in......Post #9
Tony Mamo @ afr.....engine only 454 cu.in. 731hp = 1.61 hp/cu.in.

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SAM's 433LSX should be up there. That thing is insane.
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chrs1313 made more then 472 fyi.

here is mine and my heads are for sale.....

346 ci ls6 block
stock pistons
stock rods
stock crank
243 heads Cartek 4X milled down to 56cc chambers
eps cam
and bolt on's
T56 trans
ford nine with 4.56 gears
hoosierQTP 28x11.5x15 tireon the dyno
made good power i am sure with a differnt cam it will make way more.think aboutselling this setup
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I believe LPE 403 should be their also.

1.75 hp/ Cu. In.

460RHS - 803hp.
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Excellent. I will update tonight. IF you have a link to their numbers / posts, that would be great, but otherwise I can find them if they're in LS-1 Tech.
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chrs1313 info https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...4-10-11-a.html
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Theres that notch with stock cube and 594rwhp thru auto!

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...ube-346-n.html
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Still not a perfect comparison.

Are the autos locked? 60e's and 80e's have different losses.

What about guys running th350/400 or glides that don't lock?
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...93-octane.html
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pretty cool list!

my combo is a glide, not locked.

Thanks
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Cool thread....

Obviously not "scientific" per say with so many driveline not to mention dyno variables (some are "hotter" than others).

Anyway....thought I would include my former 383 in here which was built in 05' by the way with far less of todays cutting edge technology attached (better heads, manifolds, and valvetrain components available now).

I'm sure if I had the opportunity to do something similar in 2012 I would easily be looking at 20+ more ponies with the same compression and displacement.

A link to my best results which was 547 RWHP / 500 TQ.....about 1.43 per cube thru an M6 driveline (unfortunately the link to the dyno graph is dead).

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...-my-383-a.html

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Extremely mildly built 427 but...

At the crank = 1.54

RW - 1.35

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...b-c-d-e-f.html
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427ci C6 Z06. Heads and intake ported, cammed, exhaust, tuned
Air-Flo Technology in Pompano Beach, FL did all the work and tuning.

628 RWHP

TOP 10 MOST WHEEL HORSEPOWER / Cu.In. Naturally Aspirated - Manual trans.;
1) 1.47

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We made 566rwhp with an NA 408 through a tr6060 trans an a 9 inch with a big drag radial which is 1.387

Also made 490rwhp with a HCI LS1 set up. which is 1.416
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Originally Posted by Jenson
SAM's 433LSX should be up there. That thing is insane.
My quick search didn't find it. Do you have a link?

Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
here is mine
made good power i am sure with a differnt cam it will make way more.
Very nice. Added to the list

Originally Posted by TheLS1Lover
I believe LPE 403 should be their also.
1.75 hp/ Cu. In.
460RHS - 803hp.
Thank you for the link. Added to the list.

Originally Posted by 98blueSScamaro
Thank you for the link. The Auto hp/cu.in. section is tough to compete in or vs any other group. Highest numbers, but its logical they will be the ones trying harder for peak.

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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
Theres that notch with stock cube and 594rwhp thru auto! https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...ube-346-n.html
That's DMMizell already posted. Thank you for the link though. And yeah, pretty ridiculous.

Originally Posted by LIL SS
Still not a perfect comparison.
Are the autos locked? 60e's and 80e's have different losses.
What about guys running th350/400 or glides that don't lock?
I can post Locked, or Unlocked, or Glide next to all post in the Auto trans section, but if you're gonna dyno, you should dyno locked anyway right? If you're a glide, then no matter what you do, that's what is going to get to the wheels anyway. I get it, they all make a difference, but I'm not sure there's much else to do with this. All the dyno's read a little differently also, But I'm trying to arrange so much random information as organized as possible without making it silly confusing. I think breaking this down any further will really ruin the thread. That's why stating the set up in your posts and better yet, posting links to the build threads will let the readers get more from it if they want. But it will be at least a decent go to guide to start?

Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
Cool thread....

Obviously not "scientific" per say with so many driveline not to mention dyno variables (some are "hotter" than others).
my best results which was 547 RWHP / 500 TQ.....about 1.43 per cube thru an M6 driveline.
-Tony
Nice. I didn't get to read this earlier version. I'm sure there are PLENTY that have seen that link and will back you up. So I will post the numbers without an actual working Dyno link.
And.. I guess I kinda called out to your first statement in the reply just above it. I think It (this list) is a decent "springboard" to a lot of good information as organized as possible without getting ridiculous and confusing. Then anyone can click on the individual links to get more detailed info if possible. I think I will tag each entry (at bottom under the cu.Inch divisions) with a post # reference to their specific links for quicker searching / learning.

That is LPE 403 already posted.

Originally Posted by DMMizell
pretty cool list!
my combo is a glide, not locked.
Thanks
Dave
Thank You! I will start posting details like this in the Auto Section. Bad *** set up man. I went over what I could to learn how you put it togther. Your heads are crazy large. (yeah, she said that too. )


Originally Posted by WKMCD
Extremely mildly built 427 but...
RW - 1.35https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...b-c-d-e-f.html
Thank you for the link.. Added to the list.

Originally Posted by LS6427
427ci C6 Z06. Heads and intake ported, cammed, exhaust, tuned. Air-Flo Technology in Pompano Beach, FL did all the work and tuning. 628 RWHP.
Awesome work. I did a search under your posts, but I didn't find anything with this build or dyno #'s. Do you have a link to your build on any forum? Here or otherwise? I will add when given

Originally Posted by Frans96SS
We made 566rwhp with an NA 408 through a tr6060 trans an a 9 inch with a big drag radial which is 1.387
Also made 490rwhp with a HCI LS1 set up. which is 1.416
I'm beat.. lol. Do you have a link to this? I didn't search. Apologies.

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Built this one,
454lsx,TH400 687rwhp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f2tNkpCbiQ
1.51 Hp/Cu

Owner is "LTZSS" on Ls1tech

Thanks,
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I wont last long on this list but I am at 1.27/ cu. in. in a stock bottom end ls1 through a 4l60e with a 4k stall. 442 hp.

Here is the link with the dyno sheet and a video on the 2nd page.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...d-results.html
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David Lazear A.K.A. Stripes1987
should be on there.

810 rwhp and 565 rwtq

1.730 hp/cu in

468ci Lsx tall deck block
Mozez Canted valve heads
60mm Cam
Jesel .937 Keyway lifters
Manton 9/16 pushrods
Jesel Solid Body Shaft System
Titanium valves.
Psi springs
Full dry sump system
Beck Sheetmetal intake with 2 dominator TB's

rossler th400
7000 stall
4.56 gears
9" rear end
and slicks.

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My car made 572rwhp 518 rwtq NA its a tfs245 lsx 427. Its with a 4l60 so that makes 1.33hp/cu in.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...ous-setup.html
sorry only thread i made on my car.


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