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10-12-2008, 08:07 AM
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what are you running? hey guys what size engine are you boosting
need alittle info for my build
just tell us what you have and how you like it. what you could change to make it better. more cubes, heads, or bigger cam things like this
i have a aps kit, m6, 12 bolt , stock bottom end at 12psi right now. i want to hit about 800rwhp with a nice driveable bottom end 346-377 with more boost or 402+ with less boost, any ideas. this a street car but i drive it like i stole it
need alittle info for my build
just tell us what you have and how you like it. what you could change to make it better. more cubes, heads, or bigger cam things like this
i have a aps kit, m6, 12 bolt , stock bottom end at 12psi right now. i want to hit about 800rwhp with a nice driveable bottom end 346-377 with more boost or 402+ with less boost, any ideas. this a street car but i drive it like i stole it
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10-12-2008, 09:30 AM
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Cubes.......: 355
Cam.........: Custom application specific Bret Bauer Turbo Cam
Bottom end: All forged, spec'd to safely handle up to 800hp
................... Rods: stock length
................... Crank: stock stroke
Heads.......: Stock ported
Hotside.....: Log style-Reason: logs are less expensive, less intrusive, better plug access
................... and generally allow all accessory retention.
Radiator relocation altered: No. But use of 'thin' fan required because Turbo too close.
In closing, be honest with yourself and the vendors you field answers from about your driving style and goals. While I'd love to have the stupendous HP/TQ of Tiago's car, I fear I'd be spending equally stupendous dollars replacing destroyed transmissions.
I shot for 600RWHP because I feel that on my daily driver (To/From work in Houston, TX) that is the most I can actually get to the ground thru my Nitto Drag radials. Your goal of 800 is only a twist away on the Boost Controller but I think I'd just be going up in smoke.
I have the T56, Ford 8.8/Gm 10 bolt hybrid 4.10 differential, subframe connectors, BMR LCA/PHR so I'm all set on the chassis short of a legal rollcage. Your ride sounds like a great one!
Cam.........: Custom application specific Bret Bauer Turbo Cam
Bottom end: All forged, spec'd to safely handle up to 800hp
................... Rods: stock length
................... Crank: stock stroke
Heads.......: Stock ported
Hotside.....: Log style-Reason: logs are less expensive, less intrusive, better plug access
................... and generally allow all accessory retention.
Radiator relocation altered: No. But use of 'thin' fan required because Turbo too close.
In closing, be honest with yourself and the vendors you field answers from about your driving style and goals. While I'd love to have the stupendous HP/TQ of Tiago's car, I fear I'd be spending equally stupendous dollars replacing destroyed transmissions.
I shot for 600RWHP because I feel that on my daily driver (To/From work in Houston, TX) that is the most I can actually get to the ground thru my Nitto Drag radials. Your goal of 800 is only a twist away on the Boost Controller but I think I'd just be going up in smoke.I have the T56, Ford 8.8/Gm 10 bolt hybrid 4.10 differential, subframe connectors, BMR LCA/PHR so I'm all set on the chassis short of a legal rollcage. Your ride sounds like a great one!
10-12-2008, 09:41 AM
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LQ9 block at stock bore stroked with a 4.00" crank. If the 6-bolt blocks would have been out when I started this last build, I would have used either the GM LSX or Warhawk blocks. I am currently switching out the LS2 intake and 75# injectors for a Vic Jr and 100# injectors. I was starting to max out the 75# injectors around 4400 RPMs making 720ish rwhp and 690 rwtq at 3200.
Hitting 800 rwhp with a stock bottom is going to be hard. You can do it, but it will be short fused time bomb. The stock rods and pistons will not handle that power for long.
You can definitely make 800+ rwhp with a 346 motor, but the combo needed tends to led to a not too friendly street car.
Hitting 800 rwhp with a stock bottom is going to be hard. You can do it, but it will be short fused time bomb. The stock rods and pistons will not handle that power for long.
You can definitely make 800+ rwhp with a 346 motor, but the combo needed tends to led to a not too friendly street car.
10-12-2008, 02:30 PM
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Custom Eglin racing turbo cam
Forged botom end
LS6 stage 3 heads
ceramic coated shorties
battery relocation, 76m turbo
60# injectors
M6, 12-bolt, w/3.73
Future plans are a 427 with a single 88.
Custom Eglin racing turbo cam
Forged botom end
LS6 stage 3 heads
ceramic coated shorties
battery relocation, 76m turbo
60# injectors
M6, 12-bolt, w/3.73
Future plans are a 427 with a single 88.
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10-13-2008, 10:14 AM
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Stock LS1
LS6 valvesprings
TSP Pushrods
Racetronix Fuel Pump
Motron 60lb injectors
Perfect for my current set-up and I DD the car (14k in a year). But if I wanted more power fuel pump would have to be upgraded (probably to that nasty twin pump set-up) and stronger valvesprings if I run more boost. And of course forged internals. But that is for another year. Need to get rid of this 10 bolt first.
LS6 valvesprings
TSP Pushrods
Racetronix Fuel Pump
Motron 60lb injectors
Perfect for my current set-up and I DD the car (14k in a year). But if I wanted more power fuel pump would have to be upgraded (probably to that nasty twin pump set-up) and stronger valvesprings if I run more boost. And of course forged internals. But that is for another year. Need to get rid of this 10 bolt first.
10-13-2008, 01:28 PM
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LS1 383 4"crank
baby cam,afr 205 heads,
vic jr intake,4l80 tranny,3.70 gears
ofi kit with s91 turbo
dyno numbers in sig
car is a total monster on the street.Need trans brake for the track.Wishing i would have went a little bigger on cam and went with the afr225's/Right now only making power to 6000rpms.
baby cam,afr 205 heads,
vic jr intake,4l80 tranny,3.70 gears
ofi kit with s91 turbo
dyno numbers in sig
car is a total monster on the street.Need trans brake for the track.Wishing i would have went a little bigger on cam and went with the afr225's/Right now only making power to 6000rpms.
10-13-2008, 04:22 PM
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Really wanted a 427 but for FI it just wasn't necessary for NA then 427 or even bigger would be great.
I compromised with an iron block 408. Seen many guys running great times on the boosted lists with 370 iron blocks and 408s. I wanted more torque and power on boost and off boost.
Also with the bigger engine I went a bit more mellow on my cam..only around 580 lift with the 1.8YT rockers. And went high lsa since not really into lope on this car.
I also expect to be able to run less boost and get the same power as a smaller engine.
There is still some debate if the standard aps turbos can do around 800 to 850rwhp on a 402/408. Think so far Jm is highest with 720 on his auto 402 at 12psi or so.
I am not overly worried.I wanted a bigger engine and if the turbos can't keep up enough then maybe get them tweaked by company that is tweaking Kwkkars APS turbos.
See how it goes. Also I would not run a non forged engine with FI. I know many have done it but its a ticking time bomb sooner or later. I have seen several blown stock pistons. You can get buy with stock crank if you must but good rods and especially good pistons are key .Course there are those guys running pretty high boost on the stock blocks ..
As for driveability and other comments on my 408 combo can't say as currently assembling and installing my 408 and twin setup. Might have a report in a week or so.
I compromised with an iron block 408. Seen many guys running great times on the boosted lists with 370 iron blocks and 408s. I wanted more torque and power on boost and off boost.
Also with the bigger engine I went a bit more mellow on my cam..only around 580 lift with the 1.8YT rockers. And went high lsa since not really into lope on this car.
I also expect to be able to run less boost and get the same power as a smaller engine.
There is still some debate if the standard aps turbos can do around 800 to 850rwhp on a 402/408. Think so far Jm is highest with 720 on his auto 402 at 12psi or so.
I am not overly worried.I wanted a bigger engine and if the turbos can't keep up enough then maybe get them tweaked by company that is tweaking Kwkkars APS turbos.
See how it goes. Also I would not run a non forged engine with FI. I know many have done it but its a ticking time bomb sooner or later. I have seen several blown stock pistons. You can get buy with stock crank if you must but good rods and especially good pistons are key .Course there are those guys running pretty high boost on the stock blocks ..
As for driveability and other comments on my 408 combo can't say as currently assembling and installing my 408 and twin setup. Might have a report in a week or so.
10-13-2008, 05:14 PM
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revs pretty quick,only problem with going 383 is its hard to find pistons without a custom set.Mine are -25cc's and it takes me to around 8.5-1 which is great for a lot of boost but a little less power off the boost.before the turbo went on car made like 420 rwhp.So a little lower on the power without boost
10-15-2008, 10:53 PM
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forged 346
EPP blower cam
Vic Jr intake
D1SC
hope to make 700 RWHP and can use it as a DD with the A/C on
i have a touch more CP then some guys are running as im at 9:8:1
EPP blower cam
Vic Jr intake
D1SC
hope to make 700 RWHP and can use it as a DD with the A/C on
i have a touch more CP then some guys are running as im at 9:8:1
10-16-2008, 01:48 AM
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Merkel Racing Forged 346 LS6
Diamond blower -8.6cc pistons
Eagle H-beams
Callies Dragonslayer
DM performance girdle
ARP all around
AS 241 ported heads
TR 215-230 blower cam
FLP long tubes
D1-sc,
Lonnies performance double pumper
#60 motrons
Looking to make 700 RWHP with Vette Doctors tune
Diamond blower -8.6cc pistons
Eagle H-beams
Callies Dragonslayer
DM performance girdle
ARP all around
AS 241 ported heads
TR 215-230 blower cam
FLP long tubes
D1-sc,
Lonnies performance double pumper
#60 motrons
Looking to make 700 RWHP with Vette Doctors tune