Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Diesel Turbo Question???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-29-2006, 12:16 PM
  #1  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
chopperloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Diesel Turbo Question???

I may have a chance to get a turbo from a late model GM Diesel pick-up(Free!)
Could this be used with 364 inch. LSx?
What size/trim turbo might this be?
thanks-Dominic
Old 07-29-2006, 12:19 PM
  #2  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Boostaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No, it won't work but you may be able to use the turbo
Old 07-29-2006, 05:01 PM
  #3  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
chopperloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Sorry i don't follow-its the actual turbocharger i am wondering about-it will work?How well?
Dominic
Old 07-29-2006, 08:56 PM
  #4  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Boostaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You would have to post up the turbo modle number, or mesure all the turbo wheel sizes would also give us a good idea.

Overall the turbo is one of the cheapest parts of a turbo build, consider the cost of a turbo kit as $4000 w/o turbo, tuning software (2bar hptuners) $300, fuel system components, $1000, gauges, catch cans, etc $500 - thats not really counting drivetrain parts, the actual turbos are around $800-$1200 depending on what you want so getting a free turbo that isn't exactly what you need really isn't as good of a deal as it seams.
Old 07-29-2006, 10:25 PM
  #5  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Lafngas98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

LOTS of the mustang guys use Holset turbos. Will it work, sure! Is it the best option, hell no!
Old 07-30-2006, 12:24 PM
  #6  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
chopperloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Thanks guys..

I'll try to get more info.
Is there a list of what size turbos come on production vehicles?

My plan is a C4 vette with the 6 lt./carb blow through set up
Dominic
Old 07-31-2006, 08:40 AM
  #7  
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
DrTurbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Is its the 6.5 GM Turbodiesel?? If so, then its a GM4 turbo....way to small for a 364.
Old 08-14-2006, 05:59 AM
  #8  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
chopperloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Thank You

Turns out this turbo is from a 6.6 GM!
Wuold this be useable?
Old 08-14-2006, 10:53 AM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
TchargedLS1TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Temple, TX
Posts: 1,648
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Stock diesel turbos are way too small.. There meant to move air at 20-30 psi of boost, not 5-15 psi.. It wont work..
Old 08-14-2006, 11:01 AM
  #10  
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (3)
 
DrTurbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chopperloco
Turns out this turbo is from a 6.6 GM!
Wuold this be useable?
The stock IHI is to small for a gas engine to make any sort of real hp.
Old 08-14-2006, 06:42 PM
  #11  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (27)
 
67Firebird455's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Visalia, California
Posts: 2,525
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Agreed, diesel engines are far different than ours. Look at the rpm range also...
Old 08-27-2006, 08:09 AM
  #12  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
chopperloco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ottawa Canada
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Ttt

OK,since the turbo from a diesel is out of the question...what single turbo would you guys recomend?(on a Budget!)
Size?Brand name?Supplier?
This will HOPEFULLY be a mild iron block 6 lt.,truck manifolds,small IC,blowing through a BG 650 on a Victor JR in a C4 Vette.Trans. will be a T350.
I would like to make 500-600 RWHP.
THANKS again-Dominic
Old 08-27-2006, 08:57 AM
  #13  
Teching In
 
X_Spearmint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

any turbo will work, just depends on what you want to do. the smaller the turbo the less spool time and the less overall power. the bigger the turbo the longer it takes to spool, but you get more power, so do you want 600rwhp with lots of turbo lag, or do you want 450rwhp with a quicker spool? Also
gauges, catch cans, etc $500
that etc must cost alot of money seeing as catch cans are only $50 and you can get decent guages for cheap(though if you're running low psi with a good tune you don't neccesarilly need one)

Last edited by X_Spearmint; 08-27-2006 at 09:07 AM.
Old 12-07-2006, 08:42 PM
  #14  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (11)
 
1FSTZ71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Panama City, Fl
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

OK, not understanding some of the comments "it's a diesel turbo, it won't work". Alot of the import guys are running the HX35 Holset turbo which is basically a large version GT35, making awesome power with them. Another guy is running an HX55 on a BMW M3 putting down 895rwhp, so again, why won't diesel turbo's work? Now some of the smaller diesel turbos no, like I'm using a HX35 for my truck, which is kinda small for a V8 but I'm mainly going for low end and toruqe looking for pulling power. I wouldn't go any smaller though. If your looking for some good power an HX45/50 would be good on a 364ci LS motor, and that's a Holset Turbo from a Dodge Diesel, you can find em cheap used or rebuilt and will last a long time if done properly.
Old 12-07-2006, 09:51 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
TchargedLS1TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Temple, TX
Posts: 1,648
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by 1FSTZ71
OK, not understanding some of the comments "it's a diesel turbo, it won't work". Alot of the import guys are running the HX35 Holset turbo which is basically a large version GT35, making awesome power with them. Another guy is running an HX55 on a BMW M3 putting down 895rwhp, so again, why won't diesel turbo's work? Now some of the smaller diesel turbos no, like I'm using a HX35 for my truck, which is kinda small for a V8 but I'm mainly going for low end and toruqe looking for pulling power. I wouldn't go any smaller though. If your looking for some good power an HX45/50 would be good on a 364ci LS motor, and that's a Holset Turbo from a Dodge Diesel, you can find em cheap used or rebuilt and will last a long time if done properly.
Because a diesel turbo is designed to flow more air at higher boost levels, boost levels that would destroy a puny gas engine.. Diesel turbine housings are almost half the size of gas turbos depending on the application..
Old 12-08-2006, 07:08 AM
  #16  
TECH Addict
 
chuntington101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,866
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

there is a rule of thumb that say a deisel turbo should work on an engine half the size of the deisel unit.

sooooo a if a HX35 comes off a 6.6ltr then it should work good on a 3.3ltr engine! obviously once you start striving for BIG hp you have to adjust thoes figures as you will need more turbo!

thanks Chris.

PS. something to think about, deisel turbo exhaust housings are of a diffrent compound of iron to gas turbos! they have a max EGTs of about 600degrees C whereas petrol ones can go upto about 1000degrees C i think!



Quick Reply: Diesel Turbo Question???



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:27 AM.