Turbo on APS kit came apart today
01-09-2008, 09:58 PM
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Turbo on APS kit came apart today I was in on the second group of people that ordered the APS twin kit for the F-Body kit, the car has been in my shop for a while getting the twin kit, BMR K member and A arms along with a 6 Speed to 4L80E swap and a Nasty Performance Stage 3 fuel system.
I was out doing some road tuning tonight and everything was looking pretty good, was going to have it on the Dyno by this weekend when I made a WOT blast to about 4500 RPM when I heard a loud pop and the engine shut off
I pulled off the road and checked for damage and could see none. oil looked good. coolant looked good so WTF right? finally got it started back up and drove it home, pulled it into the shop looked it over real close raised it up on my lift and low and behold there are 2 holes that I can stick a finger through in the rubber driver side turbo discharge pipe and the turbine housing came apart from the cartrige on the cold side
I guess the snap ring broke or something
I checked it very close when I Installed it and it was fine. it was tight and had no problems
173 miles and
has anyone else had any problems with the 20G turbo coming apart?
this sucks because I have pretty much spent everthing that I had saved up for this swap
freaking car has been setting for about 3 months now
I was out doing some road tuning tonight and everything was looking pretty good, was going to have it on the Dyno by this weekend when I made a WOT blast to about 4500 RPM when I heard a loud pop and the engine shut off
I pulled off the road and checked for damage and could see none. oil looked good. coolant looked good so WTF right? finally got it started back up and drove it home, pulled it into the shop looked it over real close raised it up on my lift and low and behold there are 2 holes that I can stick a finger through in the rubber driver side turbo discharge pipe and the turbine housing came apart from the cartrige on the cold side
I guess the snap ring broke or something I checked it very close when I Installed it and it was fine. it was tight and had no problems
173 miles and
has anyone else had any problems with the 20G turbo coming apart?
this sucks because I have pretty much spent everthing that I had saved up for this swap
freaking car has been setting for about 3 months now
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01-09-2008, 10:03 PM
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wow! my only thoughts and advice would be to contact APS to see if they would replace it. Hopefully, you should be able to work with them to find a resolve. I've been looking at one of their kits for purchase in a few weeks, this has been the only negative thing I can say I've heard about the kit...
01-09-2008, 10:04 PM
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wow that sucks dude, I thought I did something similar on my procharger kit. Same thing as you did a WOT pass and heard a loud bang and the engine shut off. Come to find out I broke the belt tensioner so I swapped it out for a Katech tensioner. Thought I broke a piston or something when i did it. I felt like crap until I found out the problem so I know how you feel.
Good luck with getting it fixed.
Good luck with getting it fixed.
01-09-2008, 10:07 PM
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wow! my only thoughts and advice would be to contact APS to see if they would replace it. Hopefully, you should be able to work with them to find a resolve. I've been looking at one of their kits for purchase in a few weeks, this has been the only negative thing I can say I've heard about the kit...
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wow that sucks dude, I thought I did something similar on my procharger kit. Same thing as you did a WOT pass and heard a loud bang and the engine shut off. Come to find out I broke the belt tensioner so I swapped it out for a Katech tensioner. Thought I broke a piston or something when i did it. I felt like crap until I found out the problem so I know how you feel.
Good luck with getting it fixed.
Good luck with getting it fixed.
I just put a 403 in the car back in the spring and I was sure at first that something on it had came apart
01-09-2008, 10:08 PM
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Wow. Mine's been doing just fine. I think I was the third or fourth person on the board to finish up the kit. Got about 4000 miles on it now with no issues.
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That sucks. This is the first bad thing I have heard about the fbody kit. Be interesting to see how APS handles it? Good Luck hopefully you are back on the road in no time!
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01-09-2008, 10:18 PM
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This is just based on the pics, and I'm DEFINATELY NOT AN EXPERT, but I'm guessing that the shaft bent due to the housing coming apart? You know, it looks like the rotor may have been out of balance and when you finally spun the turbo up real good it let go and tried to go through the housing. At 173 miles it's obviously a bad turbo, but what the hell do I know?
01-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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did you call them? i think you should of at least called them before posting this up...
good luck with it, i know how it is to just get the car running and then have something go wrong and be stuck again...
good luck with it, i know how it is to just get the car running and then have something go wrong and be stuck again...
01-09-2008, 10:25 PM
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this makes me nervous, i was also in on the second batch and am installing right now! That sucks and i hope APS comes through for you!
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There's nothing wrong with posting this IMO. He's just letting us know that he's got a problem with his car. We all know how frustrating that is. Sometimes I could shoot myself when something goes wrong with the T/A.
Hope this all works out as good as possible for you, OP.
Sometimes I could shoot myself when something goes wrong with the T/A. Hope this all works out as good as possible for you, OP.
01-09-2008, 10:30 PM
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they are closed till january 16th
I sent Peter a PM but he has not signed on since january 2
mean while I will be tearing it apart to see what is damaged
I don't think this is a knock on APS just whoever made the turbo
I hope it is a freak thing and no one else has a problem at all
it is the first problem that I have seen with the kit
I sent Peter a PM but he has not signed on since january 2
mean while I will be tearing it apart to see what is damaged
I don't think this is a knock on APS just whoever made the turbo
I hope it is a freak thing and no one else has a problem at all
it is the first problem that I have seen with the kit
01-09-2008, 10:34 PM
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oh they are closed, well then calling them wont help, lol.... i'm sure when they get back to you they will make things right, it sucks that this had to happen while they were out
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Doesnt seem like anything APS did. Even if a turbo was out of balance, I would be surprised if they can do anything. Unfortunately, with most performance companies cannot offer warranties just because they dont have any control over the end users installation, driving manners, tuning, fuel, etc etc. Just too many issues out of the producers hands.
I dont see a warranty issue here. I mean, I wish you the best with the issue and I'm not trying to be negative....
Depending on what they say, I would send to to precision and see what they can do. Maybe they can source some different wheels specific to your application to squeeze some HP out of them as well.
I dont see a warranty issue here. I mean, I wish you the best with the issue and I'm not trying to be negative....
Depending on what they say, I would send to to precision and see what they can do. Maybe they can source some different wheels specific to your application to squeeze some HP out of them as well.
01-09-2008, 11:16 PM
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Doesnt seem like anything APS did. Even if a turbo was out of balance, I would be surprised if they can do anything. Unfortunately, with most performance companies cannot offer warranties just because they dont have any control over the end users installation, driving manners, tuning, fuel, etc etc. Just too many issues out of the producers hands.
I dont see a warranty issue here. I mean, I wish you the best with the issue and I'm not trying to be negative....
Depending on what they say, I would send to to precision and see what they can do. Maybe they can source some different wheels specific to your application to squeeze some HP out of them as well.
I dont see a warranty issue here. I mean, I wish you the best with the issue and I'm not trying to be negative....
Depending on what they say, I would send to to precision and see what they can do. Maybe they can source some different wheels specific to your application to squeeze some HP out of them as well.
01-09-2008, 11:22 PM
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Just let Peter know about this Darren. The turbo system should have a warranty with it.
http://www.airpowersystems.com/warranty.html
http://www.airpowersystems.com/warranty.html
01-09-2008, 11:26 PM
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Just let Peter know about this Darren. The turbo system should have a warranty with it.
http://www.airpowersystems.com/warranty.html
http://www.airpowersystems.com/warranty.html
thanks that helps alot
when will yours go on the dyno?