TheBlueKnight

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Everyone says not to get a cheap set of long tubes like pacesetters cause they can rust and to just spend the money now and get a good set that will last. Well, I don't care all that much about having shiney long tubes, so who cares if they rust, right? The only reason I wouldn't get them is if people are having trouble with the long tubes rusting all the way through and falling apart. If the rusting just effects the looks and not the performance, I'll go with pacesetters. If they are gonna rust through or fall apart I'm going American racing.

Flaring Afro

rusting goes all the way through. i think coated headers would be better for your car though since they release less heat in the engine bay. at least uncoated pacesetters did on people after a couple years in the mx6 forums (depending on where you live). I BELIEVE the northern roads with salt makes them rust quicker? i think.

firehawk#682

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mine pacesetters arent' rusting yet but i haven't had them that long and i don't drive in the rain. If i were you i would look into LPP headers and they are stainless steel and are very reasonally priced. If money isn't an issue i would go with ARH for sure tho.

Aetos

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I'm actually wondering the same....

How long would pacesetters reasonably last in DD that sees all sorts of weather? 5y? 10y? (what are stock pipes on cars? Theres old junkers from early 90's that are still running with stock exhaust on)

Also, whats the conception on those LPPs? I'm gonna get LT and TSP TD in the summer but don't want to break my wallet in the process.

firehawk#682

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If i were to do it again i would go LPP. $600 for stainless steel headers and y-pipe that a good deal. All tho i would just get the headers and a flowmaster merge and make my own y-pipe.

johnLs1camaro

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my ceramic pacesetters rusted after 2-3 months, i have had them for a year and its by far not even close to going through... that would take a long time to rust through a header, so dont worry about that...

crazymofo1986

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im are rusted to, its just surface rust. i dont see it eating away netime soon

motoo344

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My passenger side header is rusting a bit, but my drivers side one is doing alright.

ttranssam

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mine have seen quite a bit of water but the only signs have been the collectors...and that wipes clean with clr...

RevGTO

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A friend of mine has Pacesetters. We got under his car on Sunday and cleaned off most of the rust with a Scotchbrite pad. Sprayed them with some VHT hi-temp paint. Do that every once in a while and you'll never have an issue.

navyblueSS

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I have had mine for almost 3 years and they still look almost new, just not quite as shiney as they were brand new.

ZMONSTER!

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No rust on my pacesetters, but I do wish I had known about the LPP headers, a couple hundred bucks more for a realllly nice header

TXZ28LS1

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thats exactly why i didnt spend the extra 4-500 bucks for stainless steel. i could care less of a shiny header. my headers still look good. just a few rust spots on the collector. but im happy with mines.

the_merv

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I have a couple of rusty spots on the Collectors where I have scraped them, but everywhere else they are fine.

When they do rust through, I'll upgrade to some TSP 1 7/8 Headers, but that'll be a long time from now.

twitchtwice

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yeah, its one of those internet myths.

if you dont get stainless your an idiot and shouldn't even bother.

but **** if i had a money tree like everyone else on this site does then i could understand paying 1k for a header. until i plant a money tree in my backyard, i will be sticking with pacesetters or lpp

TheBlueKnight

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Thanks guys! I think I'm gonna stick with pacesetter or maybe do lpp

TXZ28LS1

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youll be happy with the pacesetters!! im even running there ory that everybody says is crappy, and it looks like a good piece to me. no issues with it at all.

Dan Stewart

A lot depends on where you live and how much you drive the car, too.

Someone who lives in the northeast and drives it everyday is going to see them rust away a lot faster than someone who lives in the southwest and drives it once in a blue moon.

LustrousWS6

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Alright, I've had mine on for 2 years now no problems. Seriously, just get the Ceramics and be CAREFUL when you install them so you don't chip the coating and you'll be fine. You're in Nevada... unless you're taking the car up to Mt. Charleston half the year, you have nothing to worry about.

TurdsOfMayhem

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Can someone tell me the abbreviation for LPP Headers, or pm me a link? Curious to see SS headers for $600