FAST 90 VS VIC JR & ELBOW
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FAST 90 VS VIC JR & ELBOW
Need your thoughts.. I was at the dyno over the weekend for a tune and some pulls when I saw in person the vic jr setup with an elbow on it....I've seen them fro sponsers online, but never in person....My tuner said I'd gain about 40more hp over my ported 90....does anyone have any facts to this....not really wanting to doubt my tuner(did a helluva job on my car) I just don't want to sell my ported 90, do the fab work on my car, and then get dissappointed, and spend $900.00 again on another ported 90.....IMPUT WELOCOME!!!!
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For a race only application and/or turbo/SC it is worth it. For a daily driver, forget it as the low-end will feel softer than your current FAST 90 setup. We have the GMPP intake with an elbow on our race only Z28.
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if its in a f body im pretty sure it wouldnt fit under the cowl...
otherwise, if its in something else hell yes it would be freaking awesome. IMO 90/90s are a middle ground.. i think you are good with either a LS6, or you should go to a single plane intake or a sheet metal
otherwise, if its in something else hell yes it would be freaking awesome. IMO 90/90s are a middle ground.. i think you are good with either a LS6, or you should go to a single plane intake or a sheet metal
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I'm curious to know if anyone has ever tried a Brodix intake "turtle" on a single plane set up to boost low end while not killing top end. I've seen it done on crabed set ups before, but never seen anyone try it with an EFI set up. :shrug:
Just me thinking out loud...
Just me thinking out loud...
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I have several friends witht the victor Jr set up. Those cars are serious forced induction cars (700-900rwhp), and the reason they went to the carb style set up was because the back 2 cylinders get more pressure in them than the front 6 do with a standard intake. The carb style intake alows for a more even distribution of flow into the engine. I doubt it would be of much help to a N/A engine. Just my $0.02
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You know my opinion, I had my Vic Ported and port matched to the TFS 225's.. i Have heard ever since it came out that it would suck on bottom end torque.. so i asked a guy from W2W a few months ago on his opinion basically he told me this:
1. you have a 408 stroker... low end torque isnt a problem
2. If you properly port it and port match it, you wont loose any down low
3. if you plan on spraying it, the equal distibution far out weighs any small low end torque loss that SOME say they have seen
4. Who lives below 5k rpm anyways
hey, i know, i could go dyno my car, then me and you could switch intake set ups for a week or two and both of us redyno and we would have two complete ported 90 vs port vic compairisons.. the only problem with that is that you have a cam inteded for use with that set up of yours, while I have a cam inteded for use with the Vic.
1. you have a 408 stroker... low end torque isnt a problem
2. If you properly port it and port match it, you wont loose any down low
3. if you plan on spraying it, the equal distibution far out weighs any small low end torque loss that SOME say they have seen
4. Who lives below 5k rpm anyways
hey, i know, i could go dyno my car, then me and you could switch intake set ups for a week or two and both of us redyno and we would have two complete ported 90 vs port vic compairisons.. the only problem with that is that you have a cam inteded for use with that set up of yours, while I have a cam inteded for use with the Vic.
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Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
could switch intake set ups for a week or two and both of us redyno and we would have two complete ported 90 vs port vic compairisons.. the only problem with that is that you have a cam inteded for use with that set up of yours, while I have a cam inteded for use with the Vic.
chrismcdaniel you got any pics of your ported Vic Jr?
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
thats awful nice of you, i have over 2k in my ported Vic Jr , i dont think you could pry my cold dead hands off of it for a swap of a fast 90/90 even if it was for a week.
chrismcdaniel you got any pics of your ported Vic Jr?
chrismcdaniel you got any pics of your ported Vic Jr?
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Originally Posted by getusum
Need your thoughts.. I was at the dyno over the weekend for a tune and some pulls when I saw in person the vic jr setup with an elbow on it....I've seen them fro sponsers online, but never in person....My tuner said I'd gain about 40more hp over my ported 90....does anyone have any facts to this....not really wanting to doubt my tuner(did a helluva job on my car) I just don't want to sell my ported 90, do the fab work on my car, and then get dissappointed, and spend $900.00 again on another ported 90.....IMPUT WELOCOME!!!!
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Originally Posted by chrismcdaniel
will in a couple weeks... its curently on a truck headed towards california.. at which time it will get loaded ona boat, then float for 5 days to hawaii.. ALONG WITH MY LME 408 been waiting a long time for my ****, at least its in route now. not that iv been waiting a long time for LME to build it, but i had to deal with the FFHP thing, get my money back, then order a new motor..
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
if its in a f body im pretty sure it wouldnt fit under the cowl...
Originally Posted by davered00ss
You need to cut the cowl on a f-body and on a vette, you need a different hood.
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
I know the feeling my VRE 427 was just completed, You should check out the pics of my Vic Jr, ETP cut it in half to port it and port match it to the 255's, it really is a sight..... i almost dont want to use it and just wear it around my neck like a peice of bling,almost
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picture is worth 1000 words...
i think its hilarious when people always say "you will loose low end torque" when refering to a sheetmetal or single plane intake. expecialy when the cars have 4000-4400 stalls in them.. people just dont think sometimes.
i think its hilarious when people always say "you will loose low end torque" when refering to a sheetmetal or single plane intake. expecialy when the cars have 4000-4400 stalls in them.. people just dont think sometimes.
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This is a great thread. I am fixing to put a forged LQ4 in my 95 mustang with ported LS6 heads and a vic jr. Just keep it carb'd to keep it simple. Anyone have any input as far as cam selection. I was thinking of going with a MS3 that my friend gave me.