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Old 11-17-2003, 09:58 PM
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a person takes good LS1 rods, installed the ARP Pro-Series (the best ones they make) rod bolts, and set them up for floating pin (bushed the small end)......

HOW MUCH HP and RPM could you reasonably exspect them to last under (don't want to hear "its not worth it", "why try", etc.......want answers)
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2-5rwhp would be my guess...I have no idea but probably not much...
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i believe he was asking how much power/rpms can you make, before the rods go KABOOM, when used with the ARP bolts

are the Pro series the $90 verions? Those are the kind I bought, since I didnt see any of those "wave-something" bolts for LS1s
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Well i think higher than 6800 rpm is a definate rod killer.

Ive had several customers in the 450-600 rwhp range on stock rods with stock bolts and arp bolts.

I would say 600 rwhp if the rpms are kept reasonable (less than 6800)
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compare:

1) stock rods with ARP bolts

2) Eagle H beam with ARP bolts
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I thought you could go to 7000 rpm with stock rods and ARP bolts. Some people do that anyway even with stock bolts in the 2001 and 2002 engines and get away with it; others don't get away with it.
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My car has been to 6800 rpm a few times with stock rods and ARP rod bolts.

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I shift AT 6800-6900 everytime I race with stock rods and ARP Bolts. I've spun my motor to over 7000 rpm on the dyno many times.

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Our car made 692rwhp through the auto and has seen as much as 7300rpm before. We have stock rods, crank with arp fasteners.
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Good rods then! Should quieten the sceptics.
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
a person takes good LS1 rods, installed the ARP Pro-Series (the best ones they make) rod bolts, and set them up for floating pin (bushed the small end)......

HOW MUCH HP and RPM could you reasonably exspect them to last under (don't want to hear "its not worth it", "why try", etc.......want answers)
The only problem with that is that after you've done the re-con, bought the bolts and installed the bushings, your close the the price of a good set of 4340 h-beams.

Is it even possible to bush the stock rods?
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Stock rods, stock rod bolts, 7,200 rpm rev limiter, 410 rwhp and it's a road race/auto-x car, so it sees high rpm all the time, for longer than 12 seconds.
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I've made over 500 on a 90K mile motor with stock rods and bolts (99 model motor)....Only thing I do is keep my RPM's lower than what I could go...my H/C could handle 8000 rpm..but my car shifts at 6500...and I have 110,000 miles on it now.....
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I heard that GM went to bigger, stronger rod bolts at some point, I think for the 2000 year and up. The years before that actually had a smaller diameter bolt with a sleave around it. The new bolts are larger diameter and don't have the sleave. If you have the new rod bolts, the word is you're good to 7000 rpm, but I wouldn't relay on that. I have the rpm limiter at 6750 rpm with my 2001 and haven't broke anything yet.
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I`ve got the exact same setup as your asking about.Lunati NHRA flat top pistons Stock rods arp studs, Machined with floating wrist pins. Spin my motor to 6800rpm when I Race And have put 14psi boost to them a few times On Race fuel, No problem so far I make a little over 400rwhp @ 8psi so 14 psi on race fuel is proubly around 500rwhp. It only cost me $80.00 to have the rods machined for the floating pins. And the pistons come with your choice of floating or pressed pins. I`d say go for it.
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I have plenty of 6800 rpm shifts with stock rods and ARP bolts.




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