Is it possible?
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Is it possible?
A long time ago when I was building a 351 M for my lifted ford I set a goal of eventually building a motor with 1000 hp. I had to make low end power so I couldn't go radical. Well I got thinking I am planning on building a 408 this winter. Is it possible to make 1000 hp from what once was a 6.0? A simple 408 is supposed to yield around 550-600 at the crank. If I go with high end rotating parts, a big cam, some high flowing heads, and drop shot of juice on it will I make 1000 hp? If I could make 750 on motor alone I would put a 250 shot of nitrous to make up the difference. If this is possible what heads would I need? Also a general idea on cost.
Something that I would love to build but I don't know if it is possible and I don't want to spend really crazy amounts of money. If it would be any more than 10 grand I think I would go with my original plan of a fairly simple 408.
Let me know what you think.
Something that I would love to build but I don't know if it is possible and I don't want to spend really crazy amounts of money. If it would be any more than 10 grand I think I would go with my original plan of a fairly simple 408.
Let me know what you think.
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1k HP is not an easy task. If it's all NA thats going to be a MAX effort motor with a giant cam and excellent heads. Springs will need to be checked often with a huge cam and will not be street friendly. Think LOTS of compression and race gas for that. Best route for a NA setup is a good amount more cubes.
FI is a better route to go with that CI and power goal. Thats not cheap at all with a forged motor with higher end parts and then all the FI stuff you would need. Turbo or S/C would run over 10k but be more friendly for the streets but still 1K is a mountain.
I think it would be better for you to set a 1/4 time goal and work for that then 1k HP.
JMO
FI is a better route to go with that CI and power goal. Thats not cheap at all with a forged motor with higher end parts and then all the FI stuff you would need. Turbo or S/C would run over 10k but be more friendly for the streets but still 1K is a mountain.
I think it would be better for you to set a 1/4 time goal and work for that then 1k HP.
JMO
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I know it will cost but I won't worry about that goal right now if it is going to be rediculous. The truck is almost never driven and if I build the 1000 hp motor it will be a track/ occational weekend toy for good.
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it will cost you more than $10k to build a reliable 1000 hp motor, regardless of combo.
i'd build a simple 408 and spray it, you could easily be close to 800hp or so with a 200 shot. keep in mind that a fuel system big enough to support a 250+ shot will most likely cost you a grand at least, especially seeing that you're starting from scratch.
i'd build a simple 408 and spray it, you could easily be close to 800hp or so with a 200 shot. keep in mind that a fuel system big enough to support a 250+ shot will most likely cost you a grand at least, especially seeing that you're starting from scratch.
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I can get two high performance pumps, two fuel cells, and the lines for less than a grand. One for the motor and one for the nitrous. Cells are only 100 or so and pumps are $300 or so each. Anyhow sounds like maybe I will build the 1000 hp next time when the kids get older!
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Talked to Texas speed and they said it would be nearly imposible to make th 1000 hp mark. He said if I stepped up to a 427 lsx block it would be a bit easier. Looks like I will stick with a rather simple 408.
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"simple" 408s can make some power. however, if i was starting from scratch and looking at machine work and new pistons/rods i would really look into a short stroke/big bore 6 liter based engine. maybe an offset ground crank and 4.03 bore. all bore 383 motor with some compression would scream and make power everywhere.
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Not starting from scratch. I have a 6.0 in my truck right now. This will be the base for my motor. Therefore the 408 is what I am going to build. Like I said maybe when that motor gets old I will make a 427 or bigger and shoot for the 1000 hp mark.
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yeah thats going to be way to hard. and 1000hp reliable car is going to cost atleast 20-30k. everything will have to be redone if done correctly. i would go with top dollar heads, big cam, and a 300shot.