Got my vette back with JPR's old motor
12-07-2003, 08:30 PM
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Got my vette back with JPR's old motor Based on the posts at the time I chose JPR to instal my new engine. (My old one ingested water and was destroyed.)
I flew up from SC to JD's Auto on Sat to drive it home. On the way home (in the snow) I noticed that the oil pressure was running about 20lbs at 80mph on the interstate. I felt this was low so I called Joe Prince (on his cell).
I did not get a return call. So I called him this morning and still no call. I am a bit concerned that now that I have paid cash for his old engine that I am out of "luck".
Now I am really concerned after seeing all of the posts about my warranty. To be fair to Joe, he wasn't around Saturday (becasue of snow) when I picked up my car. However, he knew I was coming and did not have anything prepared for me.
My concern is that I was told by Joe that I have a 12 month 24,000 mile warranty.
I would not have taken my car all the way to JPR if I thought for a single minute that I had NO warranty.
I do NOT race I just wanted more power to put a bigger smile on my face.
Joe (if you're out there) please call me and let me know that you will be glad to give me a warranty in writting. And that you will list all of the parts that were used in building your old motor (my new motor) so that there are no questions in the future.
Also, Joe... should the oil pressure be 20lbs when on the interstate at 80mph??
I flew up from SC to JD's Auto on Sat to drive it home. On the way home (in the snow) I noticed that the oil pressure was running about 20lbs at 80mph on the interstate. I felt this was low so I called Joe Prince (on his cell).
I did not get a return call. So I called him this morning and still no call. I am a bit concerned that now that I have paid cash for his old engine that I am out of "luck".
Now I am really concerned after seeing all of the posts about my warranty. To be fair to Joe, he wasn't around Saturday (becasue of snow) when I picked up my car. However, he knew I was coming and did not have anything prepared for me.
My concern is that I was told by Joe that I have a 12 month 24,000 mile warranty.
I would not have taken my car all the way to JPR if I thought for a single minute that I had NO warranty.
I do NOT race I just wanted more power to put a bigger smile on my face.
Joe (if you're out there) please call me and let me know that you will be glad to give me a warranty in writting. And that you will list all of the parts that were used in building your old motor (my new motor) so that there are no questions in the future.
Also, Joe... should the oil pressure be 20lbs when on the interstate at 80mph??
12-07-2003, 08:43 PM
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Do not drive that car. Its either a bad o-ring or a bad oil pump. You could also try running a 20W50 in the motor and see if that helps but my guess id its the oil pump. You should be making at least 40 psi on the highway
12-07-2003, 08:54 PM
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Joe left me a message before I posted and I just called him and we talked.
Joe said I could call him tomorrow and he would give me the particulars. My main concerns are... the oil pressure & the warranty. I just want what I have paid for.
I will post back once we have talked.
Joe said I could call him tomorrow and he would give me the particulars. My main concerns are... the oil pressure & the warranty. I just want what I have paid for.
I will post back once we have talked.
12-07-2003, 08:57 PM
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Yep - whatever you do don't drive it till you get it fixed. It is likely the o-ring on the oil pickup tube (lots of people have problems with this when installing a new timing set or new oil pump).
12-07-2003, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Krazy98TA
Do not drive that car. Its either a bad o-ring or a bad oil pump. You could also try running a 20W50 in the motor and see if that helps but my guess id its the oil pump. You should be making at least 40 psi on the highway
12-07-2003, 09:49 PM
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Make sure you get the oil pressure thing under control, There are alot of variables as to why you would have dyno'd lower. Did everything else stay the same i.e TB, crank pulley, headers, etc?
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12-07-2003, 10:09 PM
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I saw your vette at JD's also. Very sweet. Im glad he called you back, good luck getting it resolved.
As far as less power, is your intake tract similar, same headers and tuning? same gearing? Also the vettes lose a little bit more through the drivetrain than an fbody, could be as much as 10rwhp I believe.
As far as less power, is your intake tract similar, same headers and tuning? same gearing? Also the vettes lose a little bit more through the drivetrain than an fbody, could be as much as 10rwhp I believe.
12-07-2003, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by George C.
It's too late. I drove the car from JDs Auto to Columbia, SC (10hrs). When I talked with Joe he said it was no big deal and that oil pressure is not as important in a built motor as the tolerances are set-up a little looser. Could this have something to do with my motor making less HP than it did when it was in his car? He has an automatic and I have a 6spd. He told me to look for 460 and we got 440, with the cat-backs removed.
12-07-2003, 10:23 PM
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YEAH<my MTI 427 c5r ls6 headed motor makes 22 to 25 at warm idle, in the 40s crusing on the highway and done the roadway at 40mph and mid to high 40s at WOT. I will turn to 20w50 pressure in the summer and hopefully that kicks me up a tad as i am about 10psi less than i would like to be.
If your making only 20 at 80 something is wrong no doubt and you should do as advised in the threads contained above!
If your making only 20 at 80 something is wrong no doubt and you should do as advised in the threads contained above!
12-07-2003, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by George C.
It's too late. I drove the car from JDs Auto to Columbia, SC (10hrs). When I talked with Joe he said it was no big deal and that oil pressure is not as important in a built motor as the tolerances are set-up a little looser. Could this have something to do with my motor making less HP than it did when it was in his car? He has an automatic and I have a 6spd. He told me to look for 460 and we got 440, with the cat-backs removed.
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M6 cars make 3-5 % more hp than A4`s so Even if you lost some because your car is a vette and they dyno alittle lower you should easily be at 470. Was there any reason given for you missing 30+ hp? It just seems weird.
Im not sure whats going on here but another situation here that does not seem to be going right. I hope my buddy Bear has better luck.
I hope everything works out for you.
12-07-2003, 10:26 PM
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I sure would like to know about this oil pressure issue. Idling the oil pressure dropped so low it was scary. Joe said I needed to run a thicker oil to keep the pressure up. I've always been told that when you run a thick oil that it can't get to the valve train very quickly when you crank your car and can cause damage. Which is correct?
Yes, my car was the red one at JDs and thanks for the comments.
Yes, my car was the red one at JDs and thanks for the comments.
12-07-2003, 10:46 PM
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JDs Auto where Joe now works put the oil in the motor. When JP and I talked tonight he did not tell me what pressure he was running but made it sound like this was OK. He said he would check to see what weight oil was used.
Should I have to run motor honey to get oil pressure or is there something else that I can do? I do not want real thick oil in my new motor. I would think it would cause damage to the valve train when you first crank the car, would it not?
Should I have to run motor honey to get oil pressure or is there something else that I can do? I do not want real thick oil in my new motor. I would think it would cause damage to the valve train when you first crank the car, would it not?
