ripfirebird94

So I installed my new 233/239 camshaft from texas speed, now im doing my brand new dual springs, i have that awesome crane cam compressor that makes getting them off a piece of cake. now getting them on... thats another story. I have had NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS getting the springs on. It took me 3 hours to do two and i just gave up on two to write this. The god damn keepers NEVER will both go in. The problem with the crane cam tool is that maybe only one will go in? then u have to take it off, then re adjust, then compress, oh to far to the left, take it off , re adjust, oh to far to the right, take it off, rince and repeat. here are some pics, what am i doing wrong or do u have any tips, im about to say **** it and just let that bitch sit in my garage for a year cuz i really am on my last end with this thing.

Here are some pics

Uncompressed:

Compressed:

Only room for one keeper.... FML.:

help please.

poltergeist 02

iTrader: (65)

what method are you using? top dead center or pumping the cylander full of air? the reason i ask is that it won't be as hard to get the locks in with the valve fully seated. just a thought. you also said your using duals. also, did you change your valve seals for them? did you buy new locks? or using the stockers?

ripfirebird94

top dead center.

ripfirebird94

i changed my seats, seals, and retainers. stock locks. its what texas-speed gave me.

ripfirebird94

Bump. I need help

Gray86hatch

iTrader: (83)

can you install the locks without the sping on. If they will fit you just need to move the spring around a little when compressed.

Tim

A.R. Shale Targa

iTrader: (2)

You'll want the retainer at the height of compression just before the one
lock wants to fall out then pry w/screwdiver(left or right) to get the retainer
to shimmy(not a word) so the other lock will click in. It is a bit feisty since
the new dual spring combo has alot more pressure. BE PATIENT

408Maro

iTrader: (14)

If your doing it with every piston up to the top you shouldn't have any issues. Only thing I could think of being a problem is the nut on the bottom is to far in on the stud making it bottom out to soon when u tighten the top nut

blubu

iTrader: (10)

Flip the piece of the tool over.man so the recessed part is facing down. The piece that compresses.

ripfirebird94

I think it is, will check tomorrwo morning and get back to you all. this is the worst valve spring job ever.

blubu

iTrader: (10)

Flip the piece of the tool over.man so the recessed part is facing down. The piece that compresses. That will line it all up. Your spring is going sideways an stuff because the tool (other side) holds it center. Or close enough.

Josh.

ripfirebird94

So i put them both on and uncompress and as it wants to pop out i move it or do i move the one that is in place? this is how i got the one on cylinder 6, but i just vaugely remember it.

99LSS1

iTrader: (12)

Use a small flat tip screwdriver and try to lift the valve up from the groove and hold it there with a magnet, then slip the retainer in the other side. I have used this method many times and has worked great.

Whiteaw57

iTrader: (2)

also maybe try a little bit of grease on the locks to make them stick to the valve stem

Duffster

iTrader: (103)

This is wrong. IF he did that he would have less clearance to get the keepers into the retainers... While this is not the EXACT tool, it's from the same company and same purpose...

notice the appearance...

jrpimp00

iTrader: (17)

THis is what I do and it works.

Paul 75 L82

iTrader: (1)

Sometimes you have to move the spring side to side to let the locks line up. The grease will help, I also used a small screwdriver to help move the retainer around a little. A little is all you need.

ripfirebird94

got em all done thanks for the help

z99ls1

iTrader: (12)

Wur you putting them in at the same time? Thats the only way to do it imo