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Old 10-21-2011, 06:25 PM
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I got the g5x3 cam specs 234 242 .600/.610 112 lsa, and i have patriots duel gold valve springs .650 max lift. The flat parts on the bottom of the springs keep breaking around 1cm long. Can i still drive around the car like that? And anyone have any idea why they break? Thats in advance
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can you take and post pics of the breakage... would help us know if you are ok to drive or not
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1- i wouldn't suggest driving around on ANY kind of broken spring

2- do you know the installed height, distance to coil bind, correct seats,ect?

are you running a 5/16 pr?
assuming the springs are installed correctly it could be pr deflection
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outkast how do i go about finding out if it a 5/16pr?
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Originally Posted by mikemunoz
outkast how do i go about finding out if it a 5/16pr?
Measure the OD of the pushrod with a caliper or micrometer.
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this may be a really stupid question, but are you sure you are using the correct spring retainers?
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post pics of broken springs on the head so we can see and not guess
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visually looking at a broken spring tells you jack ****. if you pull the springs off the locks and valve stems can tell you a story though (if you know what your looking for)
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Originally Posted by 3rdCoastPowerSports
jesus christ man i was just tyring to help,,, im sure he is like most of us on here and is trying to learn, not eveyone is John ******* lingenfelter
Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Originally Posted by 3rdCoastPowerSports
jesus christ man i was just tyring to help,,, im sure he is like most of us on here and is trying to learn, not eveyone is John ******* lingenfelter
Outkast has been here since 2004. You've been here since a few months ago.

Seek to understand before seeking to be understood.
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Originally Posted by crainholio
Outkast has been here since 2004. You've been here since a few months ago.

Seek to understand before seeking to be understood.

good words of advise and i will take that advice, i didn't mean to offend you Outkast i was just trying to help out another member and got defensive at your comment... i will just sit back and read now
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Originally Posted by 3rdCoastPowerSports
good words of advise and i will take that advice, i didn't mean to offend you Outkast i was just trying to help out another member and got defensive at your comment... i will just sit back and read now
no problem here brother and i sincerely hope you didn't take my post as an attack at ya. i'm far from an expert but i'm lucky to have some very smart people throw some knowledge at me here and there. the best part about a forum is you can help people out and look to get help when you need it too. sorry for any drama in the OP's thread
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Usually if your breaking spring tips its due to not enough rate for your application. How many RPM's are you spinning the engine? usuing stock valves or larger, what material? Who's rocker arms do you have?

Without knowing the rest I cannot say for sure but like I said usually broken tips is due to not enough spring.

You can drive like that but be aware those tips are going to go somewhere, so if you dont know where they are eventually they will make it to the oil pump.




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