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Old 03-27-2013, 08:10 PM
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Hey everyone, I recently did my first full engine rebuild on my LS1 because of the amount of valvetrain noise it had and in my other thread I found the cause. Lifter stopped rolling and ruined the cam. Anyway, I figured I'd do a cam upgrade as well as other small things like LS6 rod bolts etc.. and I chose the Tick Performance Torquemax Stage 2 because I wanted a lot of torque across the entire RPM range and I figured I'd try out one of Martins new cams. When I got the engine back together after double checking everything it fired right up within half a revolution. Needless to say I was already impressed with the idle quality (very lopey just how I like it lol) So the next day I went to the tuner and well... enough talk here are the numbers!

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SLP lid
BBK 1 3/4" LTs
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Stock LS1 intake
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Congrats man, im looking to do this cam as well but with heads and a ls6 intake. Is that on stock injectors as well im assuming?

Is this auto or 6spd?
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Add an LS6 intake and a set of budget LS6 heads and you could pick up a solid 45HP if not more.
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I have to agree with you that it's one bad cam if you're looking for mad torque and a bad *** idle. I've got pretty much the same mods as you, but I have a LS6 intake and 3 inch TSP True Duals. My car was street tuned, so I have no dyno numbers, but I would venture to say I'm right around the 400 rwhp 400 rwtq mark. I'll be adding a set of the AI Dart/RHS 223cc CNC'd heads to the mix, with right at 11.5.1 compression, so I'm hoping to be right around the 450 rwhp mark. Definately look at adding a set of heads if you get the chance.
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Thanks, I wanna do an LS6 intake pretty soon lol. I just got impatient I guess.. But the tuner said I would only have to pay for dyno time from here on out which is pretty cool.

Stock injectors and its an M6. Also the car has a little bit of cam surge at about 1200 rpm or just idling through a parking lot, if I went back to them do you think they would charge to see if they could fix it? Its not really annoying because I just have to adjust my driving style a little bit but its still there and it'd be nice to get rid of it. Other than that the car drives great.
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Part of that is the overlap of the cam. Once you get past 8 deg, perfect drivability isn't happening. That cam has 10.5 degrees, which is why it sounds good and makes good power.

The solution is to buy steeper gears - 4.10s would solve it.

More tuning would help as well. However, the ECUs are older in these cars and they aren't as fast as the LS2 and LS3 ECUs. Some things just can't be tuned out completely.
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I have to agree with you that it's one bad cam if you're looking for mad torque and a bad *** idle. I've got pretty much the same mods as you, but I have a LS6 intake and 3 inch TSP True Duals. My car was street tuned, so I have no dyno numbers, but I would venture to say I'm right around the 400 rwhp 400 rwtq mark. I'll be adding a set of the AI Dart/RHS 223cc CNC'd heads to the mix, with right at 11.5.1 compression, so I'm hoping to be right around the 450 rwhp mark. Definately look at adding a set of heads if you get the chance.
Yea the idle is bad *** for sure lol and the torque is insane! I could tell that my tuner just did a little bit of street tuning and mostly just WOT. It only took him about 2 hours. I think I might call them back to see if they could try to make it a little more street friendly because I love red lights haha.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Part of that is the overlap of the cam. Once you get past 8 deg, perfect drivability isn't happening. That cam has 10.5 degrees, which is why it sounds good and makes good power.

The solution is to buy steeper gears - 4.10s would solve it.

More tuning would help as well. However, the ECUs are older in these cars and they aren't as fast as the LS2 and LS3 ECUs. Some things just can't be tuned out completely.
It does have 4.10s which do help a lot but its still not as good as I feel like it could be. .
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Yeah, more tuning then. It'll probably never be perfect right off idle at 1200rpm.
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Here's the dyno vid
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cam specs? and how about a idle clip?
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Originally Posted by Austinma62
cam specs? and how about a idle clip?
227/235 .613/620 on a 110 LSA. I'll try to get an idle clip up soon.
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Solid results. It's begging for a intake swap though.
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I think a LS6 intake could pick it up 15rwhp easily over the stock LS1 intake. Does it have an under drive pulley? LS6 intake and U/D pulley I could see it nearing 400rwhp cam-only with a 227 duration cam. That'd be impressive for sure. Also look into the later model truck MAF sensors or a Z06 MAF. They are 85mm and are worth 5-7rwhp as well. With the modifications I've listed you could have less than 400-500 dollars into them, and gain a solid 25rwhp. Torque curve looks great.
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Great numbers def needs a ls6 intake or a ported ls2 intake read they pick up a bit more then the ls6 for almost the same price I believe
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I'll have an LS6 for sale pretty soon. I'll probably swap the FAST on before I do the heads just cuz I want to get some **** out of my house and onto the car.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
I'll have an LS6 for sale pretty soon. I'll probably swap the FAST on before I do the heads just cuz I want to get some **** out of my house and onto the car.
Please sell him that LS6 intake!
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Originally Posted by av8er1555
Hey everyone, I recently did my first full engine rebuild on my LS1 because of the amount of valvetrain noise it had and in my other thread I found the cause. Lifter stopped rolling and ruined the cam. Anyway, I figured I'd do a cam upgrade as well as other small things like LS6 rod bolts etc.. and I chose the Tick Performance Torquemax Stage 2 because I wanted a lot of torque across the entire RPM range and I figured I'd try out one of Martins new cams. When I got the engine back together after double checking everything it fired right up within half a revolution. Needless to say I was already impressed with the idle quality (very lopey just how I like it lol) So the next day I went to the tuner and well... enough talk here are the numbers!

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Stock LS1 intake
Why'd they kill the 1st run @ 4250, bad springs? Even so, there was a 50 HP gain at that point!
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Time for intake/heads and you will easily break 400 wheel hp.
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Originally Posted by S10xGN
Why'd they kill the 1st run @ 4250, bad springs? Even so, there was a 50 HP gain at that point!
Air fuel went extremely lean. No fuel no power.


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