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Old 04-22-2013, 04:11 PM
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Default Noob Needs help picking DD heads/Cam Combo

I know i know, i need to read the stickies... lol Well i have and im stilll not sure what i should be getting.

Here is what i have now,
HPE S Cam
Meziere Elec Water Pump
Kooks 1 3/4 headers
TSP True Duals Exhaust
LS6 intake
FTI TH400 Stage 3 Trans with 3600 Stall
3.55 Rear gears

While i love the sound of the S Cam i would really like something a little more DD friendly, maybe its just the tune but the thing is pretty thirsty for gas and is a little rough down low.

What I really want is a heads/cam combo that is more DD friendly, will pari well with my current trans/stall set up and will be good for occasional 1/4 mile passes.

All help is much appreciated!
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Or instead of Swapping out everything, what heads would be a good fit with the S Cam?
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Hit up Martin @ tick performance he will set you straight, he's online a lot too and will take the time to help you ...
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WHat heads you got on there now? There is a pair of new fresh AI 226 Heads for sale in the sales section for $1500.. Thats a deal!
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Hit up Martin @ tick performance he will set you straight, he's online a lot too and will take the time to help you ...
Thanks, ill definitely give him a shout!
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WHat heads you got on there now? There is a pair of new fresh AI 226 Heads for sale in the sales section for $1500.. Thats a deal!
Stock heads at the moment, so (almost) anything is an improvement at this point. Car could stand to be a little better tuned, so i figured id try to knock those two out at the same time.
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Originally Posted by pauls99z28
WHat heads you got on there now? There is a pair of new fresh AI 226 Heads for sale in the sales section for $1500.. Thats a deal!
Turns out its too late on those, already sold!
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You DD a TH400? With dumped duals? And a cam bothers you? Seriously? That setup is pretty hardcore.
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You DD a TH400? With dumped duals? And a cam bothers you? Seriously? That setup is pretty hardcore.
lol Im running my downpipe dumped under my driver door side, I guess DD's are diffrent for everyone... I had a buddy get rid of his loudmouth 1 because it was too loud, I bought it and it wasnt loud enough...

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What is your idle set at? That might be a possible issue right there. What kind of tune do you have?
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You DD a TH400? With dumped duals? And a cam bothers you? Seriously? That setup is pretty hardcore.
Yea, i know its strange :p I bought the car with all the mods i listed already on it, with the intention of changing a few things up.
The reason im wanting to change up the cam is that i have read it is more top end friendly, and i would rather have something that makes more power down low. I have contemplated selling the TH400 and getting a built 4lsomething, but since then i have decided to move a little closer to work, so my commute will be MUCH shorter (literally going from a daily commute of 30-40 miles round trip to a max of 4-5 miles round trip). So im going to keep the built Turbo.

I figure if im going to do a cam swap for more down low, might as well take off the stock heads and get something to match the cam.
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What is your idle set at? That might be a possible issue right there. What kind of tune do you have?
The car idles around 800-1000, usually closer to 800. The car was already tuned when i got it, but im thinking it could stand a little better tune. At this point i think im going to try and get it all in one shot, do the heads/cam/ tune all at once.
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What are 852 heads? Are they any better than my stock 241's? Just curious cuz i found a pair with under 100 miles for $400? Would they be worth picking up and getting ported?
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Originally Posted by echastain88
What are 852 heads? Are they any better than my stock 241's? Just curious cuz i found a pair with under 100 miles for $400? Would they be worth picking up and getting ported?
you found a pair of 853 heads for $400?

your 241's are better for porting... 853 heads can be had for $100...

find some 243 cores for $450-500 and have them ported...
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The more i read about this cam(well the MS3 which is VERY similar) most people seem to think that it is too much for a stock cube 346? Should i go with something smaller, in the 228-232 range and just do a heads cam combo?
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Originally Posted by echastain88
The more i read about this cam(well the MS3 which is VERY similar) most people seem to think that it is too much for a stock cube 346? Should i go with something smaller, in the 228-232 range and just do a heads cam combo?
If it's mainly going to be a street car i'd go with something a tad smaller personally
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Originally Posted by echastain88
Should i go with something smaller, in the 228-232 range and just do a heads cam combo?
That's what I would do.

Any half competent tuner should be able to get a low 230s cam to idle and drive close to stock.
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You might just need more stall. You'll never notice the lack of low end if you're always turning 2500rpm in the TH400 and never dropping below 5000 on a WOT run with a 4k+ stall.
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Originally Posted by echastain88
The more i read about this cam(well the MS3 which is VERY similar) most people seem to think that it is too much for a stock cube 346? Should i go with something smaller, in the 228-232 range and just do a heads cam combo?
That's the setup I have...with PRC 5.3 heads. Car drives like stock and makes 470WHP. Not to hate on the dude that is selling the heads a few posts above me, but the price that he is asking for those heads alone is right around what TSP sells their H/C kits for. You won't beat the value of that deal, hands down. Save yourself the retarded amounts of money for "amazing heads" and put a bottle in your car with the extra cash.



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