Pro Stock John

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Time for an update with one of our project cars, namely my 98 Formula.

The prior two chapters...

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=1;t=011261

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=1;t=011857)

I discussed the parts we would use for the buildup...

Let's see what happening, it's been a month...

Longblock
Speed Inc. is in the process of machining the new LS6 block and balancing the rotating assembly. I will also have them assemble the shortblock. The shortblock will be .005. It should be done next week.
Parts: LS6 crate block, factory LS1 crank, Eagle 6.125 rods, Diamond 9:1 pistons, Rollmaster timing chain, FMS oil pump, Comp R lifters, FMS stage II supercharger cam, Crane valve springs, Comp titanium retainers, 6.0 stage II heads, 6.0 GM head gaskets, ARP main studs, custom H11 head studs, stock rockers

Transmission/ Converter
Blowzilla is getting a turbo 400 conversion. We are getting the converter from TCS, it's their Phoenix Super Pro. It's a hard hitting converter, 245mm, and we are hoping for at least 5000 stall speed. We are most likely getting a Coan T400 through LS1 Motersports, but that is not ordered as of yet. I will be using a B&M Pro Ratchet in the car.
Parts: TCS 5000 stall, Coan T400 with 'brake, B&M 19,000 GVW, B&M Pro Ratchet shifter, M6 crossmember

Supercharger
The Vortech YS trim arrived two weeks ago. In addition I will have a custom three core intercooler made locally. Sikora Precision will take delivery of the car after it's running on horsepower, and they will fab up the new piping for the intercooler. The supercharger and intercooler will hopefully be on the car two weeks after the motor and tranny are in the car.
Parts: Vortech YS trim, V" 8 rib balancer and crank pulley, V" 3.12 blower pulley, V" Mondo Bypass, custom blower bracket, custom intercooler, custom blower piping

Rearend/ Suspension
Since I have already had the car running for a few years at the track the changes in this category are minimal. I am going to keep the 4.11 gear for now but I am going to install a 3.50 gear once the car is making some mph. I am only needing to change the torque arm at this time, so I will remove the Random Tech and will be installing an Alston Racing torque arm.
Parts: Strange 3.50 gear, Alston Racing torque arm

Fuel System
I have decided to keep the Bosch 39 lb injectors in the car until I am ready to install the new external fuel system. Once the blower is on the car I will install the new fuel system. We will be installing new fuel rails with an external fuel pump with all the trimming. I am undecided on fuel line size but it will be at least -8.
Parts: Weldon 2025 fuel pump, Speed Inc./Sikora Precision fuel rails, Speed Inc. Drag gas tank, Siemens 83 lb injectors

PCM
In addition to keeping my stock 98 pcm and harness, I will be installing a piggyback computer. This computer is a new offering, and at this time we cannot release the name of the manufacturer. We will be evaluating the box to see how well it works for forced induction setups. It's on the way and I should have it in the next few business days. We are also borrowing a wideband setup so we can use it for tuning on the fly. This pcm solution features low impedance drivers and other features that I will write about as soon as I have spent some time messing with it... It also uses the factory crank signal which is nice.
Parts: Aftermarket pcm system

PARTS we have: heads, block, gaskets, cam, lifters, springs, retainers, blower, gas tank

PARTS on their way: Converter, PCM box

PARTS we are waiting for but ordered: Headers, injectors, torque arm

PARTS we need to order: transmission, mufflers, exhaust tubing, shifter

I am going to order the shifter and mufflers today, and make a decison on the transmission today too.

I am hoping like crazy to have the car at the BG shootout but that's contingent on having all the parts we need. I can get around most of the parts, I can find similar ones, but the headers are taking a while and we really need big ones.

<small>[ April 10, 2003, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Pro Stock John ]</small>

frcefed98

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Sounds like its going pretty good. I hope the piggyback PCM works for us FI guys. My build up is almost done, just waiting on a few things
J <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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Piggyback PCM just showed up!!!!

I'm gonna send a few folks the manual to see what they think, like Harlan.

I am on the phone with SDPC2000.com ordering the Flowmaster mufflers and the B&M shifter... wow they sure carry a lot of stuff I would have ordered through Jegs in the past.

GeorgeC

Sounds good, John. I like reading your updates on how the project is coming along...

You've got me curious about the piggyback PCM... Give me some details when you can. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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Wow I just ordered the B&M shifter and the Flowmaster mufflers... I didn't know they carried all that stuff... I went with low profile Flowmaster mufflers that have 3.5" oval inlets and outlets... part # 335408. I have a local source for 3.5" oval exhaust tubing... That place is www.boyceindustries.com. A piece of 3.5 tubing, goes from round to oval, is $30 for a 3 foot section.

I'll admit, I am shopping hard for the transmission... Right now I am leaning towards ordering one through LS1 Motorsports. I know Rob has a Coan turbo 400 in his 9.94 turbo Z/28 so I think I might give them a try... Let me say the number of choices I have are staggering, and I am looking for the cheapest and quickest solution... FLP's stuff rocks but I have also wanted to order some things through LS1 Motorsports since I have only ordered like one part from them in five years...

George, another point regarding this controller, it's the only commercially available pcm controller that's made specifically for the LS1. Retail will hopefully be under $1000. Hopefully the number of wires I need to splice are less than 10. I can tap most of them right by the pcm. I'll start looking at the manual tonite!!!!

Phil

Did u look into running the Coan converter as well? Why did u pick TCI over Coan?

Philip

Pro Stock John

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I am trying to use different LS1Tech sponsors for different parts.

TCI makes the transmission I could use but with so many choices it's hard to narrow it down to just one...

FASST

Do you have any additional info on the heads. You mentioned in chapter one the porter, but do you have any contact info/data/price (obvious the price for non-LS1tech.com owners will be different <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ) What was the reasoning behind your selection?

Do you plan on doing any dyno runs with the motor N/A just for curiousity sake?

<small>[ April 10, 2003, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: FASST ]</small>

Toxic Texan

Sounds good John!!! Thanks for the update. I can't wait to see the finished product.

Pro Stock John

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The heads are stage II ported 6.0 heads with 2.02/1.57 valves. Heads were done by a staff guy at Diamond Pistons for the owner of Diamond. You'd have to ask Chris Gelineau if they are regularly available, but I basically got them because that's what I wanted and there was a dearth of heads available.
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The pcm controller is not available yet. You'll have to wait until a few of us use it for a while and have a feel for what it can and cannot do.

Nine Ball

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Good update John. You know whats funny? Our project shortblocks will probably end up being very similar since I plan on adding the supercharger later to the 69SS. I'll probably end up going with a forged piston LS6 with Stage 1 LS6 heads for now, only looking at 6-8psi. 500 rwhp and 500 ft-lbs is all I am looking for, should be easy.

Tony

Billy the Great

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awww boo supercharger boooooo

what about the turbo headers izzo has on his website

Damian

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Blowzilla? LOL......Sounds like a fat prostitute to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Good luck with the car

Josh

MIGHTYMOUSE

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if the controller is commercially available then why are you not able to give up the 'who'?

i didnt think this was about withholding information.. but if you are doing alpha/beta testing for them then that would make sense.. but then it would not yet be commercially available?

bottom line is i probably want one to fool with <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

<small>[ April 12, 2003, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: MIGHTYMOUSE ]</small>

wrencher

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Damian:
[QB] Blowzilla? LOL......Sounds like a fat prostitute to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sounds like this biatch is in PSJ's pocket deep!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Pro Stock John

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4/29/03 UPDATE
I'm not ready to start the next chapter but I wanted to add a brief teaser...

Shortblock: Machining done, getting assembled
now, should be done by Friday.

Transmission: FLP will have it done by Monday.

Converter: TCS is shipping it tomorrow.

Headers: Kooks is shipping them tomorrow.

Torque Arm: It should be ready now Alston is making it.

Heads: Need to drop them off to have the seat pockets opened up that should turn around fast. Going with Crane springs.

3.5 oval exhaust: Boyce completed it, I had 5 foot lengths made... $57 each... Oval pipe but round on one side.

Mufflers: Flowmaster 3.5 oval inlet low profile mufflers, on back order, supposedly shipped today along with my B&amp;M Pro Ratchet shifter.

Gas Tank: Speed Inc.'s drag tank has been ready and I will pick it up tomorrow.

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I still have a lot of fuel system parts to order but most of that stuff can be delivered in 24 hours. I"m going -10 to a Y block up front, and then going -8... I might feed one rail and then loop it al or feed to both lines I'm pretty open to comments on that.

There are some other parts that I have not dealt with, like making the speedo work but they will have to wait until after the BG Shootout.

The Juggernaut

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John- can't you just get the speed sensor from yank for the speedo?
You take the tail housing off,change the gear,and the magnetic pick up goes
in the side of the housing.Extend the wires from the passenger side.
I think it is 200 and some dollars.