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Would there be interest in a mod by mod buildup of an LS1 car?
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Would there be interest in a mod by mod buildup of an LS1 car?
I'm in the market for another car to drive, and I've got a few 99-02 F-Body options...
Is there any interest in seeing mods dynoed, one mod at a time? Might also consider doing 2-3 cam swaps but I would only change the heads once.
I also might consider putting the cam choices up for a vote, to see what folks are interested. I will draw the line at no cams that require flycutting. Letting folks vote on the cam choices shows that I won't have a bias regarding the cam choice, I would leave that up to you guys.
Let me know.
Is there any interest in seeing mods dynoed, one mod at a time? Might also consider doing 2-3 cam swaps but I would only change the heads once.
I also might consider putting the cam choices up for a vote, to see what folks are interested. I will draw the line at no cams that require flycutting. Letting folks vote on the cam choices shows that I won't have a bias regarding the cam choice, I would leave that up to you guys.
Let me know.
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Im not sure. Id like to see it done, but my car has most mods already so it dosent really apeal to me as much (although a person with a stock car might bennifit more, but I dont think there are too many stock LS1 cars out there) For the heads, they should be something that the mojority of people can afford, and as for the cams I think it would be a good idea to maybe make it four. A bitch cam (stealth, old man, cheater) the proven cam (224) a medium cam (low 230's) and the big boys (X4, T-rex, etc) It would also help if the car was an M6 since that seems like the weapon of choice for a dyno.
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It would be kind of hard to do accuratly. I mean a lot of mods are compliments. Especially a cam. You know what I mean, If you have full exhaust and stock intake, a 231/237 cam is not going to put down good numbers at all. I guess you could do it as a combo. As in if you buy these headers, this exhaust you will gain XXrwhp.
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I like the idea. For some of us, it's sort of a living vicariously thing. I love my car, but right now (and for the next 16 or so months) I'm too concerned with paying for the car to be able to pay for mods on it. I have a whole list of things I still want to do (at least $7000 worth of parts + installs + tuning) but since I still owe over $5000 on the car itself, I can't yet do those things. So my vote is yes, so I can get some idea of what will really happen with a step by step build up; power gains, track times, etc.
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What do you hope to accomplish? IMO it'll only lead to more "what headers are best" and "what lid is best" threads. By this point, we all pretty much know how to build the first 400rwhp, its the next 400rwhp that everyone is interested in. Kinda too basic for a technical forum IMO.
If anything, maybe do a lid test, once and for all. Test all available lids on a car, see which is best. Same with headers. Same with catbacks. Same with heads. Otherwise it will just be another H/C car in the dyno results forum. *yawn*
Personally, I'd rather see a part by part buildup of your turbo car, including dynos, track visits, what works, what doesn't, what fits, what doesn't, etc.
If anything, maybe do a lid test, once and for all. Test all available lids on a car, see which is best. Same with headers. Same with catbacks. Same with heads. Otherwise it will just be another H/C car in the dyno results forum. *yawn*
Personally, I'd rather see a part by part buildup of your turbo car, including dynos, track visits, what works, what doesn't, what fits, what doesn't, etc.
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John, are you still planning a turbo build for your car? I am guessing this doesn't apply to many here on the site, but I think it might be interesting to follow a turbo build.
You could experiment with some different cams w/ a turbo, or maybe some differrent turbos to see boost threshold differences and efficiency/power tradeoffs. Just my bias opinion since I am looking to put a turbo on later this year.
As far as just doing some bolt-ons or cam swaps I don't know that we will learn too much. I believe that most of that info can be found in the dyno section. I also thing that most of the popular cams that are close in specs will make pretty much the same power.
You could experiment with some different cams w/ a turbo, or maybe some differrent turbos to see boost threshold differences and efficiency/power tradeoffs. Just my bias opinion since I am looking to put a turbo on later this year.
As far as just doing some bolt-ons or cam swaps I don't know that we will learn too much. I believe that most of that info can be found in the dyno section. I also thing that most of the popular cams that are close in specs will make pretty much the same power.
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If a full build why not make some real world tests on hot topics like SFCs and what size sways brake upgrades etc.
I would never want to miss any good info so I would say go for it.
It's fun to watch a build up!
I would never want to miss any good info so I would say go for it.
It's fun to watch a build up!
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great idea , but it requires great effort ! are u sure man it needs to be accurate , ive worked in a dyno for 6 months and i really know how to manipulate .. am sure it is going to be clean ,
why u doing that ?
thank u in advance
why u doing that ?
thank u in advance
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Originally Posted by SPANKY LS1
What do you hope to accomplish? IMO it'll only lead to more "what headers are best" and "what lid is best" threads. By this point, we all pretty much know how to build the first 400rwhp, its the next 400rwhp that everyone is interested in. Kinda too basic for a technical forum IMO.
If anything, maybe do a lid test, once and for all. Test all available lids on a car, see which is best. Same with headers. Same with catbacks. Same with heads. Otherwise it will just be another H/C car in the dyno results forum. *yawn*
Personally, I'd rather see a part by part buildup of your turbo car, including dynos, track visits, what works, what doesn't, what fits, what doesn't, etc.
If anything, maybe do a lid test, once and for all. Test all available lids on a car, see which is best. Same with headers. Same with catbacks. Same with heads. Otherwise it will just be another H/C car in the dyno results forum. *yawn*
Personally, I'd rather see a part by part buildup of your turbo car, including dynos, track visits, what works, what doesn't, what fits, what doesn't, etc.
Here ya go http://www.motorsporttech.com/press/...ay2004_02.html
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I'd be interested, but when you do it be very complete about it (how many times did it get tuned, what was changed in the tune, what issues did you run across during the build, what did you do to fix them, etc). Seems to me a lot of the questions on this board relate to average buildup stuff that people just don't know . might even make it a complete story for each mod (we all know each mod could be a book...of course it would be rated R for language )
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Although I voted yes...... I am past the bolton/h/c phase...... it's probably not an option, but a motor buildup (such as a 402/408/etc) I think might be much more appreciated, considering that its about that time that these motors are starting to get rebuilt, and a few cam swaps (large as well as small) and possibly the differences in header size(1 3/4/-1 7/8) as well intake setups might be more beneficial. I KNOW id appreciate it more... but im aware thats alot more money
Its just that the 402/408 is such a popular route (relatively inexpensive) people are going right now. As far as a step by step build up of a stock car: IMHO LS1 tech has MORE THAN enough information to cover that.
Its just that the 402/408 is such a popular route (relatively inexpensive) people are going right now. As far as a step by step build up of a stock car: IMHO LS1 tech has MORE THAN enough information to cover that.
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go for it, and use the better, but not rediculusly expensive parts. i would like to see a step by step buildup with parts like 90/90, 1 7/8 lts, SD tuned, Dart heads, and a variety of cams, with the goal of paking the most power out of a reasonable street setup. one thing i would really like to see are results of things like CF driveshafts, rims(lighter), and flywheels with respect to dyno results. (reducing the rotating mass and parasitic loss items). also things like suspension upgrades tested individually on drag times, and being that PSJ is very experienced, he should be consistent.
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I think it sounds like a good idea. It would give a lot of people at least a guide as to what they could expect from a prospective mod. A good idea would be to do them in the order most people mod anyway. Like lid, filter, catback, tb etc....