VTC_WS6

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Well since Futral let me down (going on 7 weeks now with no communication, no returned messages, no returned Email ..nothing), I have no choice but to look for another cam for my new setup. I had originally gone with the FM13 to compliment my stock '02 LS1 bottom end, LS6 intake, TSP/PRC CnC ported heads w/ DART singles and titanium retainers. The idea was to run something that'll give me decent drivability with pleanty of top end power, enough to utilize the max rpm for a stock bottom end (~6200-6300rpm). 400whp would be a must for a minimum whatever cam I choose in compliment of my other parts (lid, LT's, Magnaflow etc..).

What I'm debating between right now is a TSP 231/237 and a LG G5x2, maybe the TR 230/224 as well, basically something along the lines of a ~.595 lift and ~230-234 duration, enough to give a good blend of top end with solid mid range.

So, what would you guys reccomend?

BTW this would be on an M6 with 3.42's though it will get a set of 3.73's in the future.

PREDATOR-Z

Torquer V2 from TSP 232/234, .595/.598 and your choice of 112/113/114 lsa depending on your needs.

blazerls1

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I would like to know about futral also.On their website, i can't get the 98-02 camaro products page to open.It's been like that for about 2 weeks...

VTC_WS6

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Have you seen any numbers for the Torquer? That's actually one of the originaly cams I was chosing between..

PREDATOR-Z

Yeah, I've seen plenty time slips too. I ran one fo a whole racing season. Mine was on a 113+0 with PRC 2.5 heads.
I'm rebuilding and still considering using it again.

TXZ28LS1

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whats up with futral motorsports!! i know for a while people had bad things going wrong with their cams..

VTC_WS6

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I can't speak to the quality of their parts, unfortunatley I haven't recived anything from them to be able to do so. I've heard nothing but good from their stuff, but customer service is another issue altogether.

Anyways, back to my current dillema... what cam!!

PREDATOR-Z

To see some results, type "torquer" in advanced search, dyno forum.

I got 2 "street" division championships with that cam and 11.13@123 NA

Really nice to drive considering the size, once you stomp on it it never ends pulling.
Good tune a must.

Hangman

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I have a TR 231/226 w575/567 lift on a 110.8 lsa in my 99 T/A and love it. It put down 391hp and 376ft/lbs to the rear with stock 853 casting heads, and it loves the spray, and sounds good w/4" mufflex exhaust.

z28C4maro82z

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I second the torquer 2....very similar, and I too am considering it. I was going to go with the f14, but heard about their lifter apetite and how the crave for lifters. Also, the bad customer service as of late from them

The torquer v2 has such been a great choice from what I've been reading.

My choice is between the torquer 2 or a custom 224/224 600 600 cam but stillup in the air

99blancoSS

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I've seen a nice t2 graph but have no experience with it in person. Your only looking at 62-6300 rpms so a big duration isnt what you want. Personally I'd have a custom cam ground to match what you want to do. My guess is something around 226/231 500-650 lift will be what is worked up for you (been there done that) I started moding (was gonna be cam only) with a TR224. Numbers are in my sig. Its really not worth the maybe 8 extra peak hp for me to switch to the custom cam. I have n2o for a back up
oh by the way, my numbers match the output of an fm13 with similar heads
This graph is from a mustang dyno. TR cam and pushrods, stock rockers.

PREDATOR-Z

The TQV2 and FM 14 are almost the same cam, TQV2 is a bit more agresssive on XE-R. I mean a bit.
Lobes rate on Cam Motion are 50/51 while rate on XE-R is slightly sharper at 49

1fstbird

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If anybody is interested I have a Brand New TorquerV2 on a 113lsa. I have the camcard and it is still in its original packaging. I am selling it for $325 shipped. It is a steal for a great cam.

UltraZLS1

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That cam will pull (not drop off) all the way to 6800 or more I would guess. I had the same dilemma you did because I did not want to push the stock bottom end past 64-6500 MAX.

Also you have stock gears right now, which would not be the best thing for that cam.

In my opinion if you are not wanting to rev to the moon and have stock gears....the biggest I would go is the cam in my sig. thats why I got it.

You will have a softer bottom end and more high rpm power than you like with that cam. What is the point of having a cam that big and that will rev that high when you will not be utilizing it (no gears, no high revs)?
Someone with a slightly smaller cam like mine will out pull you if you dont rev it high like it was designed for, you will be shifting too early and will not stay at optimum points in your power curve.

Thats what I think

VTC_WS6

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Well from what I'm hearing, the Torquer seems to be a good fit for a 6400rpm motor, and I do plan on adding a set of 3.73's so I'd be planning for the future I suppose.

Sprayed1998

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I have the TQR v2 and made good power. I made 401 with the stock ls1 intake, stock Tb and stock pulley.

UltraZLS1

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Sure it would work fine and all. I was just saying a slightly smaller cam would suit your needs better. It might make 5-10 rwhp more than my cam...but have worse manners and performance for what you want to do.

linegtdt52

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I think the best cam is gonna be the 230/230 from thunder racing at 112 LSA. You'll probably sit at 405-410 although you might wanna really consider the tune right after the cam goes in.

VTC_WS6

iTrader: (9)

I didn't see that one listed on TR's site?? I did see the TR 230/224 though..

And on a side note, anybody here anything about the TSP 228R? Looks like a healthy cam, a solid .581 lift, thoughts?

UltraZLS1

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I almost went with that cam...it would work real good for you. I would recommend it. almost as good of manners as a 224 and some more kick.

I wanted something slightly bigger like the f-11..so I did a custom grind through ls1speed. they only charge 379.99 for a custom grind.

honestly why dont you look into my cam...then we could compare numbers later

Just tell them you want 3724r/3725r grind ( i am pretty sure, you might want to check the catalog) on a 112+4