silver04gto

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Is a 239/242 Camshaft to big for a daily driver ? and will it be ok just installing cam on a ls1 gto or would i need heads also ?

SLP4CamaroSS

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i want to know also

RoastEmSS

jeeze the cams not even out yet be patient

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There are already 2 MS4 threads (one very large one actually). And yes, it can be daily driven-its much smaller than my DD cam. However, you will need a 3800+ stall converter, 3.73+ gears, all the bolt ons to get the most out of a cam that size. I imagine the LS2 oil pump and timing chain should be fine but you WILL need a dual spring kit and hardened pushrods.

Keep in mind the lift on that cam is pretty extreme and you would want to replace the springs around once a year to be on the safe side. You could go smaller and still see plenty of power if you don't want to daily drive a beast.

hc_performance

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you would not need heads but you would need quite a bit of tuning for a cam of this size.

REDWS6ROCKET

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a good tune makes any cam streetable, my ms3 drives like stock.

udlose99ta

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my ms3 is fine on the street with a 4k stall, think it would be worth swaping the ms3 for the ms4?

DocEwww

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Stock heads will be fine. Upgrading in the future isnt a bad idea depending what you want to do with the car.

Yea the MS4 is MUCH smaller than the Trex

On a max effort 346, otherwise no.

300bhp/ton

Yeah, and how many frigging threads have you started asking stupid questions and comparisons of just about every LS1 product in existance

You mean your cam which is sitting in a card board box???

Most in what sense?

What total CRAP, if they only do 2000-3000 miles a year in the car then they would NOT need to change them. If you have excess time/money then change them as often as you please else just wait for them to need replacing.

Rubadubdub

Why the heck would anyone want to DD a cam that big. You need to dump lots of fuel at it to have some kind of idle (that's called tuning). The exhaust will reak of gas so bad it will make your eyes water. You'll need a real loose conveter and decent gears to take advantage of the power band with a cam that big. Your gas milage will drop by 10. Some daily driver.

eamador11

I agree, youll have to spin the motor to 6500K just to get the most out of it.

1BAD02WS6

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SVT THIS just got worked!!!

~JOSHUA

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I didn't expect to read such extreme ownage in this forum. I thought I was in the street racing section for a second there.



And by the way, it's silly to run a cam with that kind of lift unless you have a real purpose for the car other than getting groceries.

My car made 421rwhp cam only with a 236/236 .580 112 LSA using Comp 918 springs which will last forever. How much more can you expect from a N/A stock cubed LS1 without heads? Why hammer the valves when the stock 241 heads run out of flow anyway beyond .590 lift? (point of dimishing returns)

s346k

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you're looking at peak hp and nothing more. i would almost guarantee that the ms4 provides similar, if not better, under the curve power and a broader curve before/after peak.

Jason 98 TA

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Wow that is a perfect example of someone on the internet spreading completely inacurate information! This camshaft is in nothing but Daily Drivers currently & can be tuned to drive just fine. There's people all over this board running camshafts larger than this daily. The camshaft when tuned properly will by no means lose 10mpg!

~JOSHUA

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Maybe... here's the chart. Nice flat torque and pulls great on the street with my 4.11 gears. Wait till I bolt on the twins!!!

Before and after. gained 38 rwhp and 40 rwtq with the tune! Stock was 10/1 A/F ratio. This is all done on a .580 lift so it's not hammering the valves as hard as the .630+ cams will.

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GuitsBoy

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Thats a huge cam to daily drive. I would guess you coudl daily drive a pro stock car if you were willing to put up with it, though. Try and find someone with an MS3, ron jeremy cam, g5x4 or Trex and see how you like the BIG cams. If this is your first cam, I wouldnt suggest starting out with something this big. Take a look at the torquer 2, perhaps.

1BAD02WS6

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and he was just giving advice on how your advice was incorrect in his opinion

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I don't want to ruin this guys thread so I'm done posting non-tech info in here. My last "flame" post was edited and I hope we can get it back on topic.