MemphisZ28

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I couldnt find a definitive answer so I figured id start a thread asking whats the realistic real world difference between a TR224 on a 112 and TR224 on a 114.

My car is semi daily driver but I want it to be fun without killling the cruising drivability or swapping springs every 10000 miles. What real world difference would I see between the 112 and 114 lsa? I dont want to spin the motor much over 6000. maybe 6500 tops, bc its a freshly rebuilt shortblock. what is the realistic difference between these LSA's? is one going to put the peak over my targeted 6k-6500 rpm limit?

A4 stock displacement z28 w stock heads

thanks guys i know alot of others are asking this same question

MemphisZ28

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just to clarify TR has the dyno of the 112 on its site. It has most of the HP in by 6k and the torque really gets going at 3-3.5k what would the 114 do to change this powerband is what im asking. their dyno only shows over 2000rpm

gts500

the only diffrent you will see is the torque number . mean that the two cams will make the same exact HP numbers but the 112 will give slight more toruqe on peak beside it will give more torque on low end but the 114 will peak slight higher on rpm.
for A4 its always been recommended for 114 use for DD and it will still make the 6500 peak plus strong mid lift ,i had that cam before on my car and was more than perfect.

Chalky

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Using EA on an LS1 with headers, the 112 will carry more power up to about 6K and then the 114 will rule. Even after 6K, power difference is no that much. Me, I would do the 112 if you want to keep peak rpm's down.

Using EA, a 110 looks even better up to about 5500.

MemphisZ28

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seems like id want the 112 for my low end grunt and lower rpm peaks rigght? is it just harder to tune or what? if the torque is stronger low end wouldnt it be more tolerating of AC and low rpms in traffic? JW. supporting mods are stainless long tubes w offroad ypipe and ls6 intake. possible mild stall if its worth it

00 Freak

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The 112 will have a more choppy sound.

davered00ss

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114 for an auto, 112 for an M6. The 112 will make power lower in the rpm range. 112 will be harder to tune for idel in an A4.

MemphisZ28

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i want the lower power rpm range i dont like winding high. is the 112 really that bad? I dont mind a choppy idle as long as it doesnt die on me. I was going to get it tuned anyways. I really dont want to ever go over 6500 rpm. i wish someone hada dyno of 114 , that doesnt make sense cuuz RPM kills a4 so why would I want the one with power in the higher rpms 6500+?? and if the 112 makes more pwoer down low how can it be harder to tune and more desirable for a m6 than a4? id like a little choppy idle, but it has to be able to idle. I WANT more low end usable power and power under the curve. so what im saying is the 114 THAT much higher rpm or are we talking 100rpm differences that wont really matter? I want this engine to have strong low mid and high rpm, but nothing over 65 like i said

gts500

hay calm down man !!!

both cams has the strong low end power range and exact horse power.

the 112 is ideal for M6 because he can launch at any rpms but the toruqe will die sooner than 114 and it has choppy idle plus he have a clutch to use so he will not suffer on traffic .

the 114 is ideal for A4 because its has little choppe idle than 112 but it will help your car awaken on traffic and easyer to tune A4 has to lock up the on drive and if you have cam like 112 you will die on traffic with car chockin.

the diffrence between them is verey small only tourque side and idle issue thats it.
so for more street manner go for 114 ,both will not go more than 6500

melchoir

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112 is not hard to tune in an a4, and works great.

99SSragtop

No Sound ????

melchoir

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Use the Windows Media version, there's sound. The flash version doesn't seem to have sound on streetfire, wierd.

MemphisZ28

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Guess im gonna order the 114. Still dont reall get real world difference

Sharpe

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Wow. This thread really went different than any other I've ever seen... and there have been many.

Why don't you call them and ask them? I'm pretty certain that you'll decide to go with the 112.

You can't go wrong talking with Pat G before buying your first cam, that's for sure!

melchoir

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The difference is sound, and power placement. The 114 will make power higher than the 112. The 112 brings the powerband in a little lower. The people telling you 112 is not for an Auto are mistaken. You can happily run a 110LSA cam on an automatic with no problems as long as it's tuned correctly. I personally have a 112LSA TR224, and have self tuned it as a newbie to tuning.

SmaknaSS

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Ive had both cams on an M6 and they both feel the same to me. the 112Lsa has a nicer sounding chop. IMHO you cant go wrong with ether.

MemphisZ28

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yeah, i was going to talk to them when i order them tomorrow anyway, just wanted to hear you guys who have them installed opinions, that 112 sounded sweet melchior!!! i think thats the sound i want ordering tomm thx guys

MemphisZ28

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talked to ron at vengeance 226/228 x3 ordered lol. now gotta find a good deal on a converter

99SSragtop

Thanks.
Your car is tuned correct?
Also I PM'd you something.
Thanks