TR224 112 vs 114 lsa
TR224 112 vs 114 lsa I couldnt find a definitive answer so I figured id start a thread asking whats the realistic real world difference between a TR224 on a 112 and TR224 on a 114.
My car is semi daily driver but I want it to be fun without killling the cruising drivability or swapping springs every 10000 miles. What real world difference would I see between the 112 and 114 lsa? I dont want to spin the motor much over 6000. maybe 6500 tops, bc its a freshly rebuilt shortblock. what is the realistic difference between these LSA's? is one going to put the peak over my targeted 6k-6500 rpm limit?
A4 stock displacement z28 w stock heads
thanks guys i know alot of others are asking this same question
My car is semi daily driver but I want it to be fun without killling the cruising drivability or swapping springs every 10000 miles. What real world difference would I see between the 112 and 114 lsa? I dont want to spin the motor much over 6000. maybe 6500 tops, bc its a freshly rebuilt shortblock. what is the realistic difference between these LSA's? is one going to put the peak over my targeted 6k-6500 rpm limit?
A4 stock displacement z28 w stock heads
thanks guys i know alot of others are asking this same question
just to clarify TR has the dyno of the 112 on its site. It has most of the HP in by 6k and the torque really gets going at 3-3.5k what would the 114 do to change this powerband is what im asking. their dyno only shows over 2000rpm
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the only diffrent you will see is the torque number . mean that the two cams will make the same exact HP numbers but the 112 will give slight more toruqe on peak beside it will give more torque on low end but the 114 will peak slight higher on rpm.
for A4 its always been recommended for 114 use for DD and it will still make the 6500 peak plus strong mid lift ,i had that cam before on my car and was more than perfect.
for A4 its always been recommended for 114 use for DD and it will still make the 6500 peak plus strong mid lift ,i had that cam before on my car and was more than perfect.
Using EA on an LS1 with headers, the 112 will carry more power up to about 6K and then the 114 will rule. Even after 6K, power difference is no that much. Me, I would do the 112 if you want to keep peak rpm's down.
Using EA, a 110 looks even better up to about 5500.
Using EA, a 110 looks even better up to about 5500.
seems like id want the 112 for my low end grunt and lower rpm peaks rigght? is it just harder to tune or what? if the torque is stronger low end wouldnt it be more tolerating of AC and low rpms in traffic? JW. supporting mods are stainless long tubes w offroad ypipe and ls6 intake. possible mild stall if its worth it
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i want the lower power rpm range i dont like winding high. is the 112 really that bad? I dont mind a choppy idle as long as it doesnt die on me. I was going to get it tuned anyways. I really dont want to ever go over 6500 rpm. i wish someone hada dyno of 114 , that doesnt make sense cuuz RPM kills a4 so why would I want the one with power in the higher rpms 6500+?? and if the 112 makes more pwoer down low how can it be harder to tune and more desirable for a m6 than a4? id like a little choppy idle, but it has to be able to idle. I WANT more low end usable power and power under the curve. so what im saying is the 114 THAT much higher rpm or are we talking 100rpm differences that wont really matter? I want this engine to have strong low mid and high rpm, but nothing over 65 like i said
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Originally Posted by MemphisZ28
i want the lower power rpm range i dont like winding high. is the 112 really that bad? I dont mind a choppy idle as long as it doesnt die on me. I was going to get it tuned anyways. I really dont want to ever go over 6500 rpm. i wish someone hada dyno of 114 , that doesnt make sense cuuz RPM kills a4 so why would I want the one with power in the higher rpms 6500+?? and if the 112 makes more pwoer down low how can it be harder to tune and more desirable for a m6 than a4? id like a little choppy idle, but it has to be able to idle. I WANT more low end usable power and power under the curve. so what im saying is the 114 THAT much higher rpm or are we talking 100rpm differences that wont really matter? I want this engine to have strong low mid and high rpm, but nothing over 65 like i said
both cams has the strong low end power range and exact horse power.
the 112 is ideal for M6 because he can launch at any rpms but the toruqe will die sooner than 114 and it has choppy idle plus he have a clutch to use so he will not suffer on traffic .
the 114 is ideal for A4 because its has little choppe idle than 112 but it will help your car awaken on traffic and easyer to tune A4 has to lock up the on drive and if you have cam like 112 you will die on traffic with car chockin.
the diffrence between them is verey small only tourque side and idle issue thats it.
so for more street manner go for 114 ,both will not go more than 6500
Wow. This thread really went different than any other I've ever seen... and there have been many.
Why don't you call them and ask them? I'm pretty certain that you'll decide to go with the 112.
You can't go wrong talking with Pat G before buying your first cam, that's for sure!
Why don't you call them and ask them? I'm pretty certain that you'll decide to go with the 112.
You can't go wrong talking with Pat G before buying your first cam, that's for sure!
Originally Posted by MemphisZ28
Guess im gonna order the 114. Still dont reall get real world difference
yeah, i was going to talk to them when i order them tomorrow anyway, just wanted to hear you guys who have them installed opinions, that 112 sounded sweet melchior!!! i think thats the sound i want 
ordering tomm thx guys
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From: Cave Creek, AZ- Canada Also.
Originally Posted by melchoir
Use the Windows Media version, there's sound. The flash version doesn't seem to have sound on streetfire, wierd.
Your car is tuned correct?
Also I PM'd you something.
Thanks