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Old 11-15-2008, 05:52 PM
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look at what i got for thanksgiving




1.6 NA roller tips and comp cams 918 beehives with all parts to go with it! i wanna do a cam late winter or so and figured id need a new valve train anyway. i just have afew questions about what ill be doing. i plan on changing out the valve springs with the heads on the car, i know to use the air to keep the valves up but has anyone had any problems doing this or anything similar ? and secondly. im not 100% sure about the guideplates (part # TFS-30400623-8 on summit) they get mounted under the rocker stud ?
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I hear you can put a shoe string in as well to keep the valve up, just leave a bit out so you can pull the string back out.
Old 11-15-2008, 06:29 PM
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Hehehehehe, who needs the ******* Turkey when u can get this !!!!
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anyone else. thoughts ? i tryed searching and cuoldnt come up with anything.
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Damn, who gets presents for thanksgiving? haha jk, I've been wanting to get some of those comp rocker arms. . let me know how they work out for you
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guide-plates go under the rocker studs. im pretty jealous of the thanksgiving present.
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Originally Posted by strokin93z
guide-plates go under the rocker studs. im pretty jealous of the thanksgiving present.
thanks i knew they did i just doubt myself alittle as to not royal F everything up when i install them. hope there the right part # thatd suck it was a self bought present tho
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i did my valvetrain with my heads on the car. Do yourself a favor and get new valve seals, there stupid cheap, easy to change and will help with the spring install.


Whatever cylinder your working on, make the piston TDC. Then use your spring tool and take off yuor old springs. Dont worry about dropping a valve, it will just sit on top of the piston and it only drops about 2mm anyways so no worrys at all. Then when you put on the new valve seals it will hold up the valve while you put on the new stuff. Did it to my car so i know first hand it works and its less of a headach then dealing with air crap or string, i even heard of using wood, lol. No need. Hope that helps... And just curious, why didnt you go with full roller rockers as opposed to just stamped with a roller tip?
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Here is a picture of right after I installed the guideplates so you can see how they should look/be installed:



Like said above make sure to pick up some valve stem seals as well.
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When I did mine I used a compression test hose and just hooked it up to shop air and you couldnt even push the valve down if you wanted to



just use a hose like that and hook it up to your air compressor or what have you and it will hold them up great
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it all works, i just dont see the hassle in removing plugs and trying to get hoses into a already tight place when you dont even need to. Makes more work for yourself when you already have your hands full with a complete valvetrain list, lol.
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you can also bring the piston up to tdc and the valve shouldn't fall down more than an inch before the piston catches it.
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thanks alot guys for all your help! i feel alot better about doing the swap now. stupid me didnt realize about even putting the cylinders at TDC. so ill def be doing that. just gotta hope its there

to Taubr Unit the reason why i got the stamped roller tip vs the full roller is because i put the money into better valve springs. i was going to get the full crane kit. but its out of stock everywhere. theyll do the same jub. maybe alittle more friction but i wanted better valve springs while staying within some kind of budget to not break the bank

and to StealthFormula. thanks for the pic! ive been looking for one just like that. do you remember the part # to your studs ? i have the arp stud kit that says it has the locators for the guide plates but i dont think it does



thanks again for everyone for the help
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The part # for the studs I used is ARP 134-7103. I would also suggest ARP Assembly lube for them part# 100-9903.
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
The part # for the studs I used is ARP 134-7103. I would also suggest ARP Assembly lube for them part# 100-9903.
ahhh excellent. i have those studs but in 3/8"s and i already bougth assembly lube. that relaxed me so much. thanks for that now i cant wait to install them! expect another post when i do that
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thats sweet, i know all about budget so im not hatin' on ya, lol. But all in all, the swap is pretty easy, just need some time or its gonna drive you nuts, kinda time consuming lol
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
thats sweet, i know all about budget so im not hatin' on ya, lol. But all in all, the swap is pretty easy, just need some time or its gonna drive you nuts, kinda time consuming lol
yeah i was figuring on 2 days taking it easy and doing it right. my boss might close my shop for thanksgiving week so id do it there if i can. i have my fingers crossed
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Looks good! Have fun with the install. Do you have any before dyno or track numbers? I'm curious as to the gains you'll see with the rockers. Good luck getting it all installed!
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Looks good! Have fun with the install. Do you have any before dyno or track numbers? I'm curious as to the gains you'll see with the rockers. Good luck getting it all installed!
nahh sorry no numbers for anything. ill try to take a video flat out to compair. its the only thing i can do



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